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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:53 PM Mar 2019

Mueller's conclusion raises new questions

Attorney General William Barr has notified Congress that special counsel Robert Mueller found no evidence during his inquiry that President Trump’s campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election.

The bombshell disclosure appeared to resolve a core question of the Mueller investigation. It sent shock waves through Washington, with Trump and his allies claiming total vindication of the president after the investigation dogged the White House for just shy of two years.
However, Barr’s four-page letter sent Sunday has raised new questions, and the full contents of Mueller’s final, confidential report to the Justice Department remain shrouded in mystery.

Here are three questions that remain even as Mueller closes up shop.

Why didn’t Mueller make a judgment on obstruction of justice?

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What investigations did he refer to other districts?


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What does the report actually say?

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/435551-muellers-conclusion-raises-new-questions

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Mueller's conclusion raises new questions (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
Barr's summary of what he claims Mueller concluded. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #1
Thanks for the clarification/correction. triron Mar 2019 #3
Mueller was NOT done! I repeat NOT done. triron Mar 2019 #2
THIS bluestarone Mar 2019 #5
I agree on that! True Blue American Mar 2019 #6
+1, which is the reasons the Kremlin KKKlan isn't screaming for the full report to be released... uponit7771 Mar 2019 #7
Actually Barr did not say that. euphorb Mar 2019 #4
Bookmarking for later. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #10
Partly agreed. Igel Mar 2019 #11
Again, there's that "no evidence" bullshit nt coti Mar 2019 #8
I have a couple of questions to add: rusty fender Mar 2019 #9
Because it's not a criminal investigation? Igel Mar 2019 #12

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
7. +1, which is the reasons the Kremlin KKKlan isn't screaming for the full report to be released...
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

... to congress with dem stipulations.

Sanders and Red Don are hinging the release of the report on Barr ... the person who just summarily pardoned Red Don

euphorb

(279 posts)
4. Actually Barr did not say that.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:58 PM
Mar 2019

His letter said that the Special Counsel did not "establish" conspiracy with the "Russian government." I take did not establish to mean that there was insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution. That is very different from saying there was no evidence. Furthermore, there has never been a credible claim that the campaign conspired with the Russian government as such. Rather the claims were that there was collusion with Russian elements (oligarchs, etc.) other than the government itself. Barr was silent as to whether the Special Counsel found anything in that regard.

Igel

(35,350 posts)
11. Partly agreed.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:46 PM
Mar 2019

"Establish" is not the same as "some evidence," however it leaves open that the "some evidence" might be ambiguous. That's a danger; knowing the goal you use the evidence for can produce blindness as to alternative interpretations.

I'd argue that "government" is to be more broadly construed that some are trying to make it, given what Mueller would know about how overtly non-governmental actors were nonetheless working on behalf of the government.

Even the claim about Deripaska ultimately boils down not to "Manafort shared information with a private citizen" but "Manafort shared information with a private citizen, an oligarch, closely connected to Putin and other government-affiliated or governmental groups." The narrowness of how we construe the term is also goal-oriented, to make sure that the exoneration itself is has to be taken to be very, very narrow in scope.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
9. I have a couple of questions to add:
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:30 PM
Mar 2019

Why did Mueller recommend leniency for Flynn if Flynn didn’t give Mueller some info on a bigger fish?

Was all of Flynn’s testimony just against himself?

Igel

(35,350 posts)
12. Because it's not a criminal investigation?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:48 PM
Mar 2019

Perhaps just providing more information because the goal of the investigation was investigation, not to prove any specific wrong doing. It was a counter-intelligence investigation, don't forget, and the finding that one line of inquiry led nowhere would itself be an important thing to establish.

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