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Fiendish Thingy

(15,650 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM Mar 2019

Right now, by and large, the media is acting like "the enemy of the people"

Just as they did in the run up to the Iraq war.

The media abhors an information vacuum. Rather than focusing on the KNOWN facts contained in Meuller's indictments, they magnify the message in Barr's memo, which contains, IIRC, TWO PARTIAL SENTENCES ACTUALLY QUOTING MEULLER'S REPORT. So instead, we get an orgy of masturbatory speculation, crafting and framing the narrative just the way Trump and Barr want it to be framed.

Example:

Instead of saying "Trump is celebrating this report as a victory", (reporting a factual event), we get:

"this is a big victory for the president" (adding meaning and framing to an event).

The narrative that should be the focus of the reporting, until the report is released to the public (don't hold your breath) is that Meuller has placed the responsibility for protecting the Constitution squarely in the lap of Congress. It is now Congress's job to gather all the available evidence, not just from Meuller, but from interviewing everyone remotely involved with the most corrupt administration in thei history of the USA.

Instead, the media reports "nothing to see here, move along" and "if the Democrats push this too hard with investigations, they will hand the 2020 election to Trump".

Just as it's the job of Congress to hold the Executive branch accountable, it's the job of the media to hold the government accountable, and, right now, they are failing miserably.

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Right now, by and large, the media is acting like "the enemy of the people" (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 OP
Randi Rhodes broke down the Barr letter today SHRED Mar 2019 #1
She's my Cronkite. byronius Mar 2019 #2
Except for Rachel, Ari, Nicole, and Lawrence. CNN is a lost cause (i have a little hope for Don triron Mar 2019 #3
Ari said today SHRED Mar 2019 #4
Barr didn't even try to say THAT, that's what so frustrating about the reportage ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #8
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #5
I think you took the wrong off ramp Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #6
+1 DesertRat Mar 2019 #10
You sound just like someone else,,,,,, Eko Mar 2019 #7
Collectively, our media simply don't have the attention span or expertise to clearly parse out coti Mar 2019 #9
I saw a bit of MSNBC this AM - IT WAS FUCKING RIDICULOUS rufus dog Mar 2019 #11
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
4. Ari said today
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 10:37 PM
Mar 2019

"Mueller found no evidence of collusion."

This is premature.

Unless of course you trust Barr.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Barr didn't even try to say THAT, that's what so frustrating about the reportage ...
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:23 PM
Mar 2019

He said 'did not establish collusion w/the Russian Government' ...

What exactly does 'establish' mean? Does that mean 'no evidence' or does it mean 'not enough evidence to establish guilt of a prosecutable crime, beyond a reasonable doubt, in court of law?'

There's a WIDE area in between those two ideas. And we don't know where it falls, nobody but a handful of people do, which does not include Ari.

And the people he and his peeps colluded with don't have to be, like members of Russian Congress or Judiciary FFS. Anybody that they had reason to believe were affiliated with the Russian Government is bad enough (Natalia, anyone?) ... at minimum for the Public to READ ABOUT when we see THE REPORT.

Response to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Eko

(7,336 posts)
7. You sound just like someone else,,,,,,
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:11 PM
Mar 2019

I cant place it though,,,, I think this person keeps saying this all the time though,,, still cant place who it is.

coti

(4,612 posts)
9. Collectively, our media simply don't have the attention span or expertise to clearly parse out
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:29 PM
Mar 2019

the facts and meaning of not only somewhat complicated legal jargon and assessment but also the rationale and ramifications of legal decisionmaking.

You can bet that Bill Barr and others in the Trump Administration know this. They are taking advantage of a gaping hole in the capabilities and structural limitations of our media reporting.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
11. I saw a bit of MSNBC this AM - IT WAS FUCKING RIDICULOUS
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:07 AM
Mar 2019

The host at 6:00 AM (Pacific) was horrible, forget her name, and have no interest to go look, because she is always a right wing shill. But then Katie Tur came on. Yesterday she challenged everyone to step up including the media. Do their jobs and make sure the truth comes out. The first 10 minutes of her show were despicable. The pResident was exonerated, did the Dems push too hard? It was like she got a memo first thing with her talking points and followed them to the letter.

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