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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:57 PM Mar 2019

The sickness of whiteness

Has anyone else listened to the latest Chris Hayes podcast? You need to. Interesting - very much so. Concerning - even more so. Gist is that life expectancy has dropped for the last 3 years amongst white men and it explores the intersection between self interest and being a Trump supporter. Looks like they will vote against their own self interests, even when it is cutting their life expectancy to hold unto the idea of whiteness. The Q is what can the offer be from the democrats in 2020 when they know they can get a better deal for themselves if they vote differently, but they are so embedded to the Trump philosophy this takes precedence. What offer can you make them in those circumstances, because you cannot give them what they most want = white is right, brown is dangerous.

Podcast is Why is this happening with Chris Hayes - Dying of Whiteness with Jonathan Metzl. Really worth a listen to get to the heart of Trump supporters.

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Aristus

(66,434 posts)
1. I recently re-read one of Stephen Ambrose's books on WWII.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:01 PM
Mar 2019

An American medic was treating a German soldier who needed a blood transfusion. The German soldier refused the transfusion unless the medic could guarantee that the blood donor had not been Jewish. "I would rather die than have Jewish blood in me" the German soldier said.

The American shrugged and moved on to help someone else. The German soldier died.

The German soldier's mindset is exactly what white Trump supporters believe. And it's what's killing them.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
4. I am aware of that story too. Medics don't play.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

FUCK every NAZI, then, and now. Hopefully American Nazis feel the same way.

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Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
3. Amen. Shrinkage of bigotry has been happening in our culture slowly but
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:13 PM
Mar 2019

trump has radicalized the moldy oldy, Civil War loving Southerners and other RW white nationalist factions who are not in any way main stream Americans ... I believe that this is their last gasp. Strong, yes, but they are over when we stand together!

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
5. Can we find a way to get them some GOOD CHEAP (dirty) crank?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mar 2019

It's what Hitler did in pill form. They'll eat it up.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,385 posts)
6. IME, white people would rather hurt and blame others than work on and love themselves.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:30 PM
Mar 2019

ETA: Of course, hurting and blaming others have worked for generations, so why start now?

It's a mess, honestly.

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