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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does the right hate electric cars so much?
Ive seen stories about them blocking charging stations on purpose. One of my right-wing cousins posted a meme on Facebook I dont always downshift, but when I do its next to a Prius so they know Im hurting the environment . Seriously, why do they care that someone chooses to drive an electric car? How in the world does it hurt them? I just dont understand...
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)They also help global warming which liberals like so the right will do anything they can to increase global warming.
Hating liberals is more important to them than the safety and future of our country or families.
That's what Fox News and the right wing machine teaches them.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)Right-wing hate radio has pushed hatred of liberals so poisonously and relentlessly for thirty years that it has conditioned a Pavlovian response in all those people whose brain-power never rose above that of the average dog.
I knew a guy once so in thrall to hate radio that all one had to do was mention Bill Clinton, and he would turn red in the face and literally foam at the mouth. It was a little unsettling to witness.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)Limpaw spent the next year ranting and railing against the American-made car as the most horrible
thing to ever happen in the world worse than WWII and 911.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)There are pickup owners who spend thousands of dollars to cause their trucks to spew out clouds of smoke. They only do it to piss off other people. It doesn't benefit them at all, but they're willing to pay thousands of dollars for the fun of pissing off liberals/environmentalists.
It says something about them psychologically that they would choose waste money and breathe in more toxins just to irritate someone they probably don't even know.
Girard442
(6,072 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)all I can say is, IDK. People are VERY mean to me - and more than a few times, folks have stuck out their middle finger for *nothing* - I have not made a driving mistake, I'm not in front of them (to go slow). One guy pulled out a MAGA sign, honked repeatedly - the irony is I wouldn't even have seen it.....but my daughter did
DBoon
(22,366 posts)Somehow that BMW owner was upset that we were ahead of him
kskiska
(27,045 posts)Go figure.
Celerity
(43,380 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)As their out several weekends a year blowing away as many as they can get a bead on.
Initech
(100,076 posts)It's almost like they wake up in the morning thinking "how much more of a dick can I be?". Blocking electric vehicle charging stations with their gargantuan gas guzzling trucks is a colossal dick move. If I drive a Model 3 and I see that, I'm calling the cops.
Botany
(70,504 posts)He grew up and was bathed in right wing crap and he took pleasure in my pain
of seeing Trump in the White House. Even though he is a doctor he used phrases
like lib-tards, how sweet are liberal tears, transgender bathrooms, and that black
people voting are obviously cheating.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)We've spent over a 100 years creating wealth from oil/gas/gasoline, including transportation routes, on a global basis.
Counties have been invaded over and over because of oil/pipeline routes/seaports.
Part of the reason Japan started a war with us had to do with access to oil.
Ironically, we have used up hundreds of years worth of oil carrying out wars to grab oil resources.
Oil-garchs, indeed, have fought nuclear power alternatives, electric power alternatives, etc. to maintain oil superiority.
they have not yet figured out that on a dying planet, money has no value.
hurple
(1,306 posts)I live in a blue state, but in a county that went 86% trump. We have a wind energy company wanting to build a wind farm in the county, with a promise of 30 million tax dollars for the county per year.
And the local yokels are fighting against it tooth and nail, even though it get continually pointed out that this would lower their property taxes. They say they don't want the birds falling out of the skies, or the blinking safety lights, for planes, are "blinding," or that it's a well-known fact that those towers cast darker shadows than other structures (what the?), or whatever insanely stupid thing they can one up with to oppose them...
And the oddest part is all the counties around this one have approved the farms, and they've gone in without any of the "horrors" these idiots are protesting, and those counties are experiencing windfall revenue increases... but still they fight and scream and make fools of themselves, and this county.
hauckeye
(635 posts)You wont have electricity <eye roll>
Merlot
(9,696 posts)wait till they see what climate change does to the bird population, as well as other animals, and humans.
I'm also guessing all those people who are concerned about birds are vegitarians who never go hunting.
Norbert
(6,039 posts)of a power plant. If we are so concerned about birds then not only should we stop wind power, we should shut down the power plants as well.
A couple years back I wa at a family reunion and the subject came up about wind power with a group of us. We weren't even 10 seconds into the conversation when one of the young cousins spouted, "You're gonna kill a lot of birds." The right did do their homework and that is repeat a talking point and it will take root wherever you go, whether it is true or not.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)More birds are killed by factory farming every day than wind turbines and cats combined would be my guess.
The "birds are gonna die" thing just won't fly with me. ; )
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)On all those Corporate owned TV and Radio antenna. Those hypocrites will NEVER bring up those numbers. I live in Kansas,we have wind farms out the wazoo. If there was some huge,weird number of birds killed on a daily or weekly basis by those generators it would be on the local news.
I have NEVER seen one story in all the years wind generation has been building up in this State. Those MAGOTS can bitch all they want,wind generation and wind farms is HOT in Kansas. Farmers make a LOAD of cash off of leasing the land and hope to be next on the list.
hurple
(1,306 posts)They don't give a shit about the environment or animals, until something they don't like gets falsely accused of hurting a few, then they're sudden "tree huggers"
Odd, that.
And here's a fun story: Got into a "debate" with a MAGAt on FB about wind power, and he pulled out the "fact," the "well-known fact," that each tower kills thousands of birds monthly. In fact, he continued, all those towers have piles of birds laying at their base. I responded by informing him that I live in a windfarm, and have a few towers less than 5 miles from me and that I would be happy to go photograph the area around the base of a few towers so he could see there are no "piles of birds" there. Funny, that was the end of that discussion.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)the claims that wind turbines kill thousands of birds. If that were true, surely I'd see piles of dead birds at the base of the towers that I drive by fairly often of some of my trips.
hurple
(1,306 posts)They don't kill any more birds than planes, tall glass buildings, or anything else they might fly into by accident. But, I don't see MAGAts protesting any of those
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Even if it's something that protects the planet, saves them money, etc., they will not only be in opposition to it, they will see it as an enemy that needs to be defeated.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Car worship. I have known people who love cars the way gun enthusiasts love their guns. They like the smell of gasoline and the noise. They also like to work on them and to be able to salvage parts from junkyards.
Heavy metal thunder, Thunder Road, and Born to Run...... and before that Chuck Berry's You Can't Catch Me among many others.
Electric cars are un-romantically practical.
MichMan
(11,929 posts)Plus the $7500 subsidy. I know quite a few that on principle are fine with electric cars, but don't believe someone buying a $75K Tesla needs the taxpayers providing a subsidy
Volaris
(10,271 posts)It's smart if you're not rich.
Again, this is about their enjoyment of willing ignorance as a way to take a dig at us.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)Those things are the muscle-car equalivant of a jet fighter...sexy as fuck if you like power.
Brawndo
(535 posts)Driving an electric car implies caring about the environment, to them, caring = weakness. Examine the motivations behind a high school bully, the right shares those exact same motives. They are beings unburdened by complexity or intellect.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)Hybrids and electrics are quiet and frugal and protect common natural resources. They are an affront to the macho individualist "values" of the MAGA drivers.
"Manly" cars are big and loud. They consume more fuel to display their dominance over other cars (see Veblen, Theory of the Leisure Class). "Rolling coal" is the equivalent of a dominant dog dry humping another much smaller dog.
Being aggressive to hybrid/electric drivers is a display of dominance to reassure themselves that they truly rule the road
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)This stuff does. I think they feel its based on hippie liberal Hollywood Democrat .....
Hate!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)hates most everything.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But their identification with their tribe of choice deflects their self-loathing outward to anything their overlords tell them to hate. Because that's what rugged individualists do!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)that sums it up rather well.
Separation
(1,975 posts)Just want to see the world burn.
moondust
(19,981 posts)The economies of some states like TX and OK are heavily invested in fossil fuels, creating a lot of jobs and making a few guys super rich.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)errrr
Raine
(30,540 posts)that's what it all comes down to.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)walkingman
(7,616 posts)by some on the right. I like your acronym. I've used WPP(White Peoples Party) for years when referring to the GOP.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)than genetics. But, hatred and lack of compassion definitely runs in families.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)That if you have one, you'll be a republican, but most Republicans have them.
Their natural, BIOLOGICAL response, is to Be Afraid Of New Shit.
The result is their opinion that any and all progress can kick rocks.
walkingman
(7,616 posts)Republican actually knows that we cannot continue on this path of utter destruction of our environment. But because of the political labeling of both parties would rather profess loyalty to the cult over their own self-interest.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Sure, there are rich people with investment portfolios full of fossil fuel stocks, but that doesn't account for the numbers and the gusto with which so many rank & file conservatives engage in the hate.
The key to understanding it is recognizing the addiction to bile and axe-grinding. Combine them into a foamy mix, hook the tank up to a foam-cannon, and have fun all day long pointing it liberals and blasting away.
When you get down to the brass tacks, it really is that simple.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)They fight electric car adoption in an attempt to protect their ownership of the gas guzzlers they love
Same reason gun nuts fight against all types of gun reform
ansible
(1,718 posts)While lithium batteries have advanced it considerably, there is now the danger of the increasing demand for it causing just as much pollution as oil drilling does. Compound this with its rarity and cost of refinement and you have a potentially dangerous situation. And the fact is batteries simply do not last forever, eventually you will have to dispose and replace it, generating massive waste.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact
Mariana
(14,857 posts)Because they have serious concerns about battery technology on electric cars?
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)They don't make enough smoke. And when they do smoke, they stop running.
Somebody could build a smoke generator and put it in the trunk of the car. With a big tall chrome smoke pipe. Maybe even have flames shooting out. Yeah. That would work.
Hotler
(11,421 posts)it's the drivers. Most of the Prius I encounter on the road dawdle, and do it in the wrong lane. Then again some drivers in non-electric vehicles dawdle also, and in the wrong lane. And for the record I don't hate any of them. I wait for a safe spot and pass them.
I have also followed Prius drivers that were not afraid to put the peddle down. Those time were fun. Both of us should have had tickets.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,050 posts)We love the car! I used to have a big Mercedes 400 hp 5.5l before it. I love cars. We live in a conservative area outside of Portland. We have had it for 4 months and other then a couple cars cutting me off-nothing.
Heres my list of love for my Leaf:
1) no money goes to Tru$$ia or the House of Saud
2) $10k for a 3 year old car that needs no maintenance other then tires and wiper blades
3) doubles as a backup power source
4) quiet to drive you hear the road
5) blast to drive and I can drive as aggressive as i want
If they realized the intrinsic economic advantages then it would be a clear choice. No better deal on the car market then a used leaf. We spend $15 extra on electricity a month and drive it everywhere and everyday.
Id argue it helps further by not support our enemies, it removes support from the exploitive mineral extraction business, no releases no CO2 and its a better driving experience.
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Because of its utter futility, I seldom engage climate deniers. However, from my few attempts, I have gleaned 2 key fundamental principles of this issue:
1) Politicians and their fossilized enablers, especially campaign donors, have embraced a philosophy for treehuggers which is quite similar to the way in which young students sometimes mock their classmates who excel in school for being too smart, as if scholastic achievement were a bad thing.
The best example I can cite came from Glenn Beck's original CNN HLN TV show, before he had to jump to lesser-known networks. When Obama began his first big push for conservation, Beck shared with his audience that, when he commuted to the studio, he deliberately left his car running in the parking lot all day to do his part to disprove the "theory" of global warming.
I continue fuming about that statement a decade later.
2) The discovery and global embrace of petroleum has done far more good for humanity than any theoretical threat from an unproven "idea" of global warming. From their perspective, without oil, humanity would remain in the dark ages and any belief to the contrary is treasonous and anti-competitive.
Sitting behind both of these philosophies is a firm embrace of capitalism: unless someone makes money off everything everyone does, the system is threatened. I am living proof. I drive a 2013 Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid and my home is solar-powered (shout-out to MomentumSolar.com). Although the Volt has a fraction of the range of a Tesla (±45 miles between charges), I don't drive too much. Thus, I can coordinate with weather conditions. Living in Florida, I am able to limit my charging time to sunny days between 10AM and 5PM.
In short, better than 90% of my driving consistently has zero-emissions. As you can sense, I am proud of this but who profits from it? No one and that's the point.
MichMan
(11,929 posts)I know quite a few that on principle are fine with electric cars, but don't believe someone buying a $75K Tesla needs the taxpayers providing a subsidy
Iggo
(47,552 posts)I tend to think, and just off the top of my head, that that's not all that prevalent.
EDIT: Wait a second. Now that I think about it, I'm thinking about the people who the street-level righty thinks drives a Prius. Now it makes more sense.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)To them, that means we think they're stupid (under other circumstances, this would be wrong).
But since they think we're proud of our intelligence (and rightly so), they conclude that we look down on them for not being like us.
Their response is to be PROUD of their ignorance, as a misconcieved response to our 'elite-ism'.
Which is actually the thing I look down on.
No Hate for the uneducated. Much, MUCH hate for the WILLINGLY STUPID.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)It's really that simple.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Secondarily, because they don't make enough noise.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)The rich leaders hate electric cars because so many of them are rich because of petroleum. Their willfully ignorant minions have a lot of reasons, like:
"them goldurned libruls wanna tell me whut car I can and can't drive. Ain't no goldurned librul gonna tell me whut ta do!"
"Them thur cars is for_____ (insert sexist/hompphobic term)"
And of course the rich are around the willfully ignorant like sheep on this.
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)and I often don't get any respect on the highway. Maybe I should put an NRA bumper sticker on the back...
Takket
(21,568 posts)the response is more Pavlovian than rational.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)They swallow what the oil and auto industries puke out, then regurgitate it everywhere they go. It's too much work to think for themselves.
llmart
(15,539 posts)That's the bottom line. It's their reason for getting up every day. They rarely smile - I mean a genuine smile, not that tight lipped, stick up their butts, sneer they think is a smile. What they consider humor is making fun of someone else. Everything bad that happens in their lives is someone else's fault. They just need to wallow in negativity and hate.
Personally I hope it eats them up and shortens their lives.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Accordingly they act out against anything championed by liberals. Its just mindless lashing out against a world that no longer caters exclusively to them and which they are increasingly unable to understand.
Fla_Democrat
(2,547 posts)I have it on good authority that they love the Black Rifle Coffee company's Prius. Just sayin'.