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Sooooo Pro Life *ROLLS EYES* (Original Post) Soph0571 Apr 2019 OP
Because they don't really give a shit about the "life" Freddie Apr 2019 #1
Plus when it might cost the holier than thou a dollar more in taxes to help the poor and the sick workinclasszero Apr 2019 #7
Yeah...but they owned the Libtards Submariner Apr 2019 #2
I'm starting to think that's all they care about! moose65 Apr 2019 #13
Pro-lifers also tend to major death penalty supporters. marble falls Apr 2019 #3
Yes. You are so right. Maggiemayhem Apr 2019 #4
I believe they think of the death penalty as an acceptable very late term form of abortion. marble falls Apr 2019 #5
I generally do not favor very late term abortions crazytown Apr 2019 #17
That's a fact! workinclasszero Apr 2019 #8
Fetuses are not people, not living humans, NOT babies. Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #6
Actually, the heartbeat can be seen on ultrasound at approx 6 weeks. Tess49 Apr 2019 #15
Oh wow I didn't know that. Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #22
The other thing that they are totally oblivious to is PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #18
Heartbeat is detectable about 4 wks after conception which is about 2 wks after a missed period. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #21
I have heard that they have had some success at freezing and thawing Farmer-Rick Apr 2019 #23
The complete hypocrisy of these two positions is never examined. The ruling class gives c-rational Apr 2019 #9
They're pro-controlling other people's lives and choices IronLionZion Apr 2019 #10
Those are the same ones that don't want immigrants safeinOhio Apr 2019 #11
I am so sick Highway61 Apr 2019 #12
It's religious hypocrisy. This is what they get from the pulpits on Sunday. Screw religion. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #14
I'm reminded of the parable of the sheep and the goats jmowreader Apr 2019 #16
i call them pro-fetus, cause they do not give a shit about children. pansypoo53219 Apr 2019 #19
"Life" only matters when it's inside the female reproductive tract. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #20
Perfect example dalton99a Apr 2019 #24
Kick ck4829 Apr 2019 #25

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
1. Because they don't really give a shit about the "life"
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:10 AM
Apr 2019

It’s about controlling women and the “consequences” of (gasp!) sex. Only women have consequences, of course.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Plus when it might cost the holier than thou a dollar more in taxes to help the poor and the sick
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:29 AM
Apr 2019

like Jesus commands them to do.....

They boot the poor, children not excluded, out to the street to suffer and die!

Pro-life MY ASS! Christian MY ASS!

moose65

(3,168 posts)
13. I'm starting to think that's all they care about!
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 08:38 PM
Apr 2019

I can’t find any other rationale for why they do what they do, other than they do it to stick it to the commie libtards. Seems to be the only thing they care about! 🙄

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
4. Yes. You are so right.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:12 AM
Apr 2019

You should hear the Christians spout off on our local crime page, they are bloodthirsty.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
17. I generally do not favor very late term abortions
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:22 AM
Apr 2019

but in Trump’s case I would be prepared to make an exception.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
6. Fetuses are not people, not living humans, NOT babies.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:28 AM
Apr 2019

They have the potential to be, but they aren't, even if they have a heartbeat.

Do you know what also has a heartbeat? Cows, pigs and chickens. And they aren't stuffed inside a person.

This crap that a fetus is a "baby" is NOT based on facts or science. At it's earliest, fetal development begins after fertilization on the eleventh week of gestational age. The supposed "heartbeat" starts at 9 weeks. So the thing that looks much like a fish isn't even considered a fetus when it has a heartbeat. It is still an embryo. As an embryo, it can be frozen and thawed and implanted and still live. Last I looked, you can't freeze and thaw humans without killing them.

So they passed a law to save a fertilized egg and yet the little living babies are left to suffer and die without health care. The stupid is just too much.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
18. The other thing that they are totally oblivious to is
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:39 AM
Apr 2019

how many conceptions don't take, result in early spontaneous abortions. Guesses are that up to 50% of conceptions don't result in pregnancies, let alone live births.

And all you have to do is talk to a bunch of women and you'll get lots of stories of a late period that was a whole lot heavier than normal, and that (now that we think about it) might very well have been an early spontaneous miscarriage.

I have known any number of women who've reported such things.

Crunchy Frog

(26,646 posts)
21. Heartbeat is detectable about 4 wks after conception which is about 2 wks after a missed period.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:17 AM
Apr 2019

It's considered a fetus from about 8 weeks. It's only during roughly the 1st week following conception that freezing and thawing is possible. Not past the blastocyst stage where it consists entirely of undifferentiated cells. (Source: my own experience with frozen embryo transfer.)

I just think that our side needs to be careful about accuracy.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
23. I have heard that they have had some success at freezing and thawing
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:14 AM
Apr 2019

later embryo stages with artificial womb experiments with animals. But you are right, it is experimental right now.

But I suspect it is coming soon. So, will they arrest the artificial womb if it aborts? Or will they give more rights to a machine than to a woman?

In the meantime, we let the living breathing babies suffer from the ruinous cost of health care.

c-rational

(2,595 posts)
9. The complete hypocrisy of these two positions is never examined. The ruling class gives
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:37 AM
Apr 2019

the ignorant masses they believe they want because of religious brainwashing, and the ruling class undermines the fabric of society. Time for the 99% to wake up. Also, why doesn't the argument that abortion rights lead to fewer crimes ever gets a frank discussion - read Freakonomics by the MIT economics professor. We need to wake up as a country and the democrats need to start winning all elections. We have the numbers and therefore the votes. Elections do have consequences.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
10. They're pro-controlling other people's lives and choices
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019

and claim it's the kids' parents fault for not having good jobs with health insurance because of liberals or immigrants or even those damn feminists have jacked up premiums for health insurance or something

safeinOhio

(32,726 posts)
11. Those are the same ones that don't want immigrants
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 09:45 AM
Apr 2019

coming across the border because Saint trumps says there is no more room for them.
But, that makes the case to allow abortion and birth control. No room for more people here.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
16. I'm reminded of the parable of the sheep and the goats
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:14 AM
Apr 2019

Our "Christians" may want to read the Bible a little closer. Both the sheep and goats parable and the admonition that anyone who doesn't work doesn't get to eat are targeted directly at the kinds of people we have running around this country acting like saying "I believe! I believe!" lets you shit on your fellow man with no repercussions.

pansypoo53219

(20,997 posts)
19. i call them pro-fetus, cause they do not give a shit about children.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:45 AM
Apr 2019

until they feed, house, & keep the children healthy, that is not pro-life. i wish the dems would say that.

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