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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wonder what is resonating with the 20% of voters...
that always seem up for grabs.
Right now Trump has his 40% supporters. Well, fuck them, they are idiots not worth the effort.
I figure another 40% are disgusted and outraged by what this bloated, would be dictator does.
But that last 20% that swings the election.
Do they see the disregard for the law, the loathsome and incompetent people he picks to fill his Administration.
The constant lies, the cruelty and greed?
I wonder if they see how much harm this POtuS is doing to our country?
murielm99
(30,741 posts)I live in a red area of a blue state. I see more activism and outrage in my red county than I have seen in a lifetime. People who were never involved before are voting and working to elect Democrats.
I dunno where they were five years, or ten years or twenty years ago when we needed them. I despise them for that. But we have them now and we need to do the work.
I think those might be your twenty percent.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)I don't know how many of those are true RW believers or just Republiscum who can't walk away.
Either way i don't count on them to vote against him in 2020.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)is just only vaguely aware. Think of when you when you were in school - politics often only on the periphery.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)Politics was front and center.
2naSalit
(86,613 posts)individuals who "can't be bothered with politics" as they tell me, some of them vote in general elections but that's all. They don't want to hear about how it matters to them on an every day level but they think it's too much to wrap their heads around to "go there" and pay attention. That is, until they notice some law suddenly fucks up their life, then they complain about it.
I grew up within a decade of the end of WWII and boy howdy, civics lessons began in kindergarten in New England public schools. Of course being in the northeastern colonial states probably had something to do with that too. It was a local cultural thing to know and understand how our government works and doesn't work and what our responsibilities are as citizens.
The intentional starvation of public school funding over decades has been a major contributor in getting us to where we are now.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)And then they complain why "Government" or "Congress" doesn't fix it. With no awareness of how that works and why things aren't being done.
2naSalit
(86,613 posts)If they don't see an immediate change every time something needs to be addressed, they walk away from it and claim they can do nothing about it and it's not worth their time. After all, the individuals I'm referring to all have several children and some are on welfare and never intend to not be on welfare. And then there are the cell phones from which they can't avert their gaze.
It's very frustrating.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Most of them are perfectly fine with him, but those who are not, he is perfectly acceptable because LIBERALS!
They would vote for ... well, him, over any democrat 101 out of 100 times.
FM123
(10,053 posts)I hope they are future voters that will finally take action after living through everything that horrible man has done. My fear is that they are exactly who they were during the last election, non-voters who will never vote because not voting is what they always do.....
edhopper
(33,579 posts)a live with the fallacy that "both Parties are the same".
empedocles
(15,751 posts)albacore
(2,399 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)both parties get something like 40 something percent.
but there is the other which makes the difference in the national polls as we get closer to the election and they go whichever way the wind blows.
they are the ones who are turned by things like Comey .
the funny thing is these fools think they are independents and above it all and better than others. but instead they are just uninformed fools who just read headlines if they read at all and go by what the media is most lately showing.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)unfortunately.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)broke heavily for Trump, and I'm sure it's mostly due to the Comey letter that Chaffetz illegally leaked
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Republicans in particular seem to think not having any DC experience is a plus and I am puzzled by this.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)made hatred and fear of the Government a tenet of the Republican Party.
JI7
(89,249 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)They are the same people who don't know if they like Coke or Pepsi and if not for constant ads, would drink water.
If you can figure them out, you can earn millions as a political consultant or in marketing.
Like it or not, Trumps reelection is all about the economy! Sure people are outraged by his behavior, but at the end of the day, most of the so-called swing voters, vote based on their paycheck and their lot in life.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)but he might endanger their healthcare. That would turn them against him.
PDittie
(8,322 posts)Union members in three Rust Belt states swung it in 2016.
There's a reason why two old white guys are the early leaders.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I think the number of much smaller than 20%, probably about 5%.
but who resonates with them? The direction of the wind imo.