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What happens when the vile MAGAcretin starts packing the Secret Service (Original Post) malaise Apr 2019 OP
should terrify us all handmade34 Apr 2019 #1
this bothers me because we need to count on the Secret Service to remove Trump when he loses in 2020 TeamPooka Apr 2019 #2
This bothers me big time for way more than that malaise Apr 2019 #3
And that was my first thought when Bettie Apr 2019 #4
It is much worse than that malaise Apr 2019 #5
I'd expect that they'll be loyal Bettie Apr 2019 #6
This is very disturbing on many levels malaise Apr 2019 #7
Except Trump has been going out of his way.,, TDale313 Apr 2019 #19
Eric Prince bpj62 Apr 2019 #21
"The sky is falling" nonsense brooklynite Apr 2019 #8
2 1/2 years ago I would agree. eShirl Apr 2019 #11
No "restaffing" of the Border Patrol brooklynite Apr 2019 #13
Are you down-playing the seriousness of what is happening? If you are, then how do you DontBooVote Apr 2019 #23
Before freaking out, consider the following onenote Apr 2019 #26
How has my "attitude" changed? brooklynite Apr 2019 #29
Why are you down-playing the seriousness of what is happening, the seriousness of the coup that is DontBooVote Apr 2019 #30
Normalcy bias. i get it. but this whole shit show has been about pushing limits Kurt V. Apr 2019 #27
Betsy Devos's brother eShirl Apr 2019 #9
Yep malaise Apr 2019 #12
Drumpf is positioning all the pieces on the board to seize Takket Apr 2019 #10
He is trying - hopefully he will fail malaise Apr 2019 #16
Normally, I'd remind you of the rigid training and vetting necessary to join the Secret Service DFW Apr 2019 #14
Those of us who know what has happened to others malaise Apr 2019 #15
Why does his new SS head have a background in tax fraud? nolabear Apr 2019 #17
Oh My! malaise Apr 2019 #18
Maybe because investigating financial crimes is a major part of the Secret Service mission onenote Apr 2019 #24
I never before hoped for a.... Sogo Apr 2019 #20
The military is never a solution malaise Apr 2019 #22
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Apr 2019 #25
Relax... ADX Apr 2019 #28
If he loses in 2020, I guarantee things would get hideous before Trump is arrested and incarcerated. Moostache Apr 2019 #31
Rubles enid602 Apr 2019 #32
I'd hire them for him if you could guarantee malaise Apr 2019 #33
If they are untrained and incompetent... lame54 Apr 2019 #34

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
4. And that was my first thought when
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019

this was announced.

My guess is that Eric Prince will be nominated and fill out the SS with his own guys...who can be counted on not to be bothered by ethics or laws.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
5. It is much worse than that
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:59 PM
Apr 2019

There could be terrorists assigned to former Presidents - there could be spies assigned to our former Presidents and there could be assassins assigned to former Presidents and other officials.

The entire bureaucracy is being smashed before our eyes.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
6. I'd expect that they'll be loyal
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

to Prince (not that orange creature) and do whatever they are told by him.

So, yeah, I'd expect to see some "mysterious" deaths.

Wouldn't it be nice to think that the senate wouldn't confirm someone unqualified or just plain dishonest! I know, funny, right?

Remember when we used to be able to believe that the opposition was wrong, but not trying to destroy the entire system?

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
19. Except Trump has been going out of his way.,,
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:38 PM
Apr 2019

To appoint “Acting” heads to nearly all agencies rather than permanent ones who have to be confirmed.

bpj62

(999 posts)
21. Eric Prince
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

Back in 2016 Ttump was very annoyed that he could not have his own personal security detail. He has hamstrung the Secret Service and ultimately they answer to him.

I am not a conspiracy theorist by any stretch of the imagination but I truly believe that Trump will attempt to hire Erik Princes company to protect him in 2020. Trumps knows he doesn't have the votes to carry him in 2020. so he has already sowed the seeds of illegals voting in an attempt to delegitimize the elections. He also knows the military will not support him if he attempts to use them to protect him. This administration is about two things, total control over the government and money.

Eric Prince is only loyal to the people that pay him. He is a pure sociopath and he has no problem with killing Americans. This man lied to Congress with a smile on his face. Ask Iraqi veterans how they feel about Blackwater and you will get some interesting answers.

Lastly Steven Miller is Trumps Himmler and whatever Miller suggests Trump is likely to do. We are in for a bumpy ride.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
13. No "restaffing" of the Border Patrol
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

No "restaffing" of the FBI

No "restaffing" of the Secret Service

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
23. Are you down-playing the seriousness of what is happening? If you are, then how do you
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:50 PM
Apr 2019

suppose things will play out between now and 2020?

It's very curious to me, your attitude adjustment of late. And not to the good, either.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
26. Before freaking out, consider the following
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

Alles, the fired Secret Service director was the first director who hadn't previously been with the Secret Service. He was an John Kelly associate whose background was ex-Marine and ex-Customs and Border Patrol.

Murray, the newly appointed director, is a career Secret Service employee with a background in financial crimes enforcement, which is actually one of the major responsibilities of the Secret Service dating back to its origins.

I suspect that if Murray had been the current director and he was fired and replaced with Alles -- that might be a better cause for freaking out than what just happened.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
30. Why are you down-playing the seriousness of what is happening, the seriousness of the coup that is
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:08 PM
Apr 2019

in progress? How, exactly, do you see things playing out?

DFW

(54,379 posts)
14. Normally, I'd remind you of the rigid training and vetting necessary to join the Secret Service
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

And then a little voice in my head reminds me...."does the name Indira Gandhi ring a bell?"

malaise

(268,998 posts)
15. Those of us who know what has happened to others
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

in places where we were told 'it cannot happen here' tend to be more wary.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
17. Why does his new SS head have a background in tax fraud?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:28 PM
Apr 2019

You must admit it’s an interesting coincidence.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
24. Maybe because investigating financial crimes is a major part of the Secret Service mission
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019

Most people think that the Secret Service does one thing: Protect the President and other government officials (and foreign officials within the US).

But the protective responsibilities of the Secret Service are only one part of the agency's mission. It has, from its earliest days, had a major role to play in addressing financial crimes, starting with counterfeiting, but expanding over time. Today, the responsibilities of its Financial Crimes Division include crimes that involve financial institution fraud, computer and telecommunications fraud, false identification documents, access device fraud, advance fee fraud, electronic funds transfers, and money laundering.

It should be added that elevating Murray to the head of the Secret Service is a return to the longstanding practice of having someone from within the agency become its head. Alles, the guy just fired, was (I believe) the first Secret Service director who had never worked for the agency. His background was military and Customs and Border Patrol.

I would imagine that if things were reversed -- if Murray had been the previous Secret Service director and he had been fired and replaced by an ex-Marine with a Customs and Border enforcement background and no previous Secret Service experience, heads would (arguably with good reason) be exploding here.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
20. I never before hoped for a....
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:40 PM
Apr 2019

.....military coup in this country, but I'm getting there.....

I think it will come to enough generals who've had it with their CIC....

....just sayin'

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
28. Relax...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

...Chump is not going to be able to "take over" the United States Secret Service, no matter how much he might wish he could.

Seriously, it ain't gonna happen...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
31. If he loses in 2020, I guarantee things would get hideous before Trump is arrested and incarcerated.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019

He is already going to be served subpoenas as soon as the new president is sworn in (Individual 1), but maybe things collapse on the ass ferret sooner - or karma is kind to all and kills him with a heart attack / stroke today instead...please Gaia...strike down the usurper and restore balance and sanity to the world.

enid602

(8,619 posts)
32. Rubles
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019

I think he might want some loyalists in the Secret Service who might look the other way when he and his family escape. I think he might have a few rubles overseas waiting for him.

lame54

(35,290 posts)
34. If they are untrained and incompetent...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:42 PM
Apr 2019

Trump may regret packing the agency designed to protect him

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