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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:29 PM Apr 2019

Quote of the Day: DHS Is On the Chopping Block


"Wholesale decapitation."

This is utter chaos—and a likely sign that far worse is around the corner.

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/04/quote-of-the-day-dhs-is-on-the-chopping

From an unnamed administrator official

There is a near-systematic purge happening at the nation’s second-largest national security agency.

So far this includes:

Kirstjen Nielsen, secretary of Homeland Security

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services director Francis Cissna

Office of the General Counsel’s John Mitnick

Secret Service director Randolph “Tex” Alles

Immigration and Customs Enforcement director-nominee Ron Vitiello

According to CNN, Trump recently “empowered” Stephen Miller to lead the administration’s border policies and Miller is starting out with “what amounts to a wholesale decapitation” of the Department of Homeland Security leadership.
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Quote of the Day: DHS Is On the Chopping Block (Original Post) G_j Apr 2019 OP
DHS will be introducing new triangular badges manor321 Apr 2019 #1
Maybe he's planning to privatize national security to malaise Apr 2019 #2
that is actually something that I could believe happening LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #13
Oh yeah. And those contractors will be Ilsa Apr 2019 #14
"Better to be feared than loved" Ligyron Apr 2019 #22
But Machiavelli did not support malaise Apr 2019 #24
I kind of wish he had Machiavelli instead of Stevie Miller. Ligyron Apr 2019 #27
Anything would be an improvement on Miller malaise Apr 2019 #29
Expect a snappy new praetorian guard soon. gordianot Apr 2019 #3
Chop it! FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #4
Guaranteed G_j Apr 2019 #6
Yeah, I know FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #7
Thank you! True Blue American Apr 2019 #26
Trump dislikes GW Bush almost as much as he hates Obama. LiberalArkie Apr 2019 #33
Drip. Drip. Drip. Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Our democracy is dying while we watch. They DontBooVote Apr 2019 #5
And members of OUR PARTY are telling each other it isn't worth saving it if that means moving left FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #8
And members of OUR PARTY who deny that a coup is in progress and that, soon, it will be completed. DontBooVote Apr 2019 #9
For what it is worth genxlib Apr 2019 #10
That was then, this is now Brother Buzz Apr 2019 #15
Worst plan ever malaise Apr 2019 #25
+1000s DinahMoeHum Apr 2019 #30
Secret Service was moved to DHS in 2003. nt Ilsa Apr 2019 #17
Wow! I did not know that. RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #21
Perhaps one of the saddest parts MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #36
Didn't W start that group after 9-11 nini Apr 2019 #11
Yeah, Homeland Security was a department created Ilsa Apr 2019 #41
Get ready - brownshirts are coming FakeNoose Apr 2019 #12
So you libruls thought Trump's emergency declaration was bogus? gratuitous Apr 2019 #16
"Good...GOOD" FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #18
Omg that's awesome and terrifying all at the same time... Volaris Apr 2019 #23
Miller is decapitating the DHS... BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #19
I never get tired of that malaise Apr 2019 #28
Last night I learned that my brother in law BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #31
I'm betting that the Con told him to find some hair malaise Apr 2019 #32
I wish I could photo shop the moron's BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #34
ROFL malaise Apr 2019 #35
After all.......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #37
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Apr 2019 #38
Its because of what he told them border agents GusBob Apr 2019 #20
i guess someone explained "consolidation of power" to him over the weekend 0rganism Apr 2019 #39
Trump pushed to close El Paso border, told admin officials to resume family separations G_j Apr 2019 #40

malaise

(269,002 posts)
2. Maybe he's planning to privatize national security to
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:34 PM
Apr 2019

Erik Prince - clearly they did not read The Prince

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
13. that is actually something that I could believe happening
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

He's already fired the head of the Secret Service. No doubt replaced with a True Believer.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
14. Oh yeah. And those contractors will be
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

every bit as merciless as Prince's former Blackwater employees, and even less accountable.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
27. I kind of wish he had Machiavelli instead of Stevie Miller.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:27 PM
Apr 2019

Heck, it might be an improvement, lol.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
3. Expect a snappy new praetorian guard soon.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:34 PM
Apr 2019

All private contractors would be my guess.

Get rid of judges, Congress and elections for good measure.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
33. Trump dislikes GW Bush almost as much as he hates Obama.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

Homeland was put together by GW, maybe he is busting it apart.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
5. Drip. Drip. Drip. Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Our democracy is dying while we watch. They
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:36 PM
Apr 2019

will come for us soon.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
10. For what it is worth
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:05 PM
Apr 2019

Secret service is under Treasury. Not DHS.

However, FEMA director also left less than two months ago.

That place is in chaos

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
15. That was then, this is now
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:58 PM
Apr 2019

The United States Secret Service was transferred to the newly created Department of Homeland Security in 2003.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
21. Wow! I did not know that.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:56 PM
Apr 2019

Trump is in a race against time here. He and Herr Miller have to stay ahead of the wave of legitimate investigations that might affect The Leader's hold on the throne. Never mind the fact that the only way for Trump to maintain control is by seriously diminishing the value of the country -- by "third worlding" it -- the issue is power, ruthlessly seized and ruthlessly held.

He's already laid claim to the military (a dubious claim, but not without some truth), the police (not so dubious a claim), and a gaggle of middle-aged, beer-swilling bikers (who cares? at least who cares, as long as Miller doesn't find a way to develop them and others like them into a thug-army of Brown Shirts).

The slide to chaos and Trumpian fascism has already begun, this is clear to me. And Trump is not shackled at all by law or precedent. He does what he wants whenever he feels like doing it. Nadler, et al., meanwhile, have to work carefully through legal procedures. The question is -- one of the questions, at any rate -- does the Democratic Congress have the time to expose the coup planned and being carried out by this hateful administration? Or will Trump effectively seize total control before Congress has time to nail him?

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
36. Perhaps one of the saddest parts
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 07:05 PM
Apr 2019

is that the Repugs are sitting on the sidelines with their thumbs up their a$$es watching this take place - they are having their ba**s cut off and they sit there saying, "Thank you, sir!"

nini

(16,672 posts)
11. Didn't W start that group after 9-11
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:12 PM
Apr 2019

Maybe donny wants to get back at W since his mom trashed him in her book.

yea.. I know it's nuts but we're talking trump here.

On edit: I know anything he does is to make us more vulnerable so he can get away with more too.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
41. Yeah, Homeland Security was a department created
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 08:49 PM
Apr 2019

after 9-11-01, possibly after the big 911 Commission Report on terrorism was written, because intelligence agencies had communicated or coordinated the flow of information very poorly. DHS was supposed to end that.

Just my opinion, but DHS shouldn't be involved directly in border security. Border Security is an immigration or State Dept matter, IMO, until a suspected terrorist is found, and then turned over to the FBI.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. So you libruls thought Trump's emergency declaration was bogus?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:59 PM
Apr 2019

Trump will fucking give you an emergency!

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
23. Omg that's awesome and terrifying all at the same time...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:13 PM
Apr 2019

My only complaint is that Trump is nowhere near as competent as either Anakin OR Darth Vader heh...

More like if palpatine had decided to train jar jar in dark side hate powers...

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
19. Miller is decapitating the DHS...
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:47 PM
Apr 2019

I would rather see Miller's head, complete with the spray on hair, on a platter instead.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
31. Last night I learned that my brother in law
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:32 PM
Apr 2019

never heard about Miller's spray-can hair so I just sent that to him. It is bound to become a classic.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
34. I wish I could photo shop the moron's
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:39 PM
Apr 2019

hair(?) onto Miller's head. Can you imagine the orange creature tutoring Miller in how to get a "natural look"?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
20. Its because of what he told them border agents
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:54 PM
Apr 2019

He told them to break the law and they would not so he is trying to do it with his own gang

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
39. i guess someone explained "consolidation of power" to him over the weekend
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 07:18 PM
Apr 2019

for 2 years he's been capable of pulling this lever but didn't, possibly because "the time wasn't right" or maybe "Trump is just too goddam stupid to understand". and so we've had a nice gentle push into the abyss of totalitarianism, rather than a full-tilt plunge. once he's re-tuned leadership in all sectors to match the whims of his base, and with complicit support from go-along Republicans, the laws of our republic will scatter like a house of cards in a strong breeze.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
40. Trump pushed to close El Paso border, told admin officials to resume family separations
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 07:29 PM
Apr 2019

Trump pushed to close El Paso border, told admin officials to resume family separations and agents not to admit migrants

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/trump-family-separation-el-paso-kirstjen-nielsen/index.html
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