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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:17 PM Apr 2019

Pentagon Warns That Trump Just Put US Troops In Danger


https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04/08/pentagon-warns-that-trump-just-put-us-troops-in-danger.html

Posted on Mon, Apr 8th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Pentagon Warns That Trump Just Put US Troops In Danger


Defense officials warn that US troops could face consequences in the Middle East after Trump overruled the Pentagon and declared Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a foreign terrorist group.

Politico reported:
Trump chose to overrule the Pentagon after National Security Adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo advised that the top brass’ warnings about risks to U.S. troops are overblown, several officials with direct knowledge of the deliberations told POLITICO.

The president’s move came despite Pentagon officials’ warnings that it could lead to retaliatory attacks against U.S. troops by Iranian-backed forces in the Middle East and threats from Iranian leaders that U.S. troops could face “consequences.”

“Like most things Iran-related, DoD opposed,” said a senior defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to describe ongoing tensions between the White House National Security Council, which has mounted a “maximum pressure” campaign against Iran, and a Pentagon brass that has cautioned against unnecessary provocations.


Trump is placing US troops in danger

Trump felt emboldened after Iran didn’t retaliate after the last Pentagon warning, so he is openly defying the advice of military leaders, who are in charge of keeping troops and the country protected. Trump has shown time and again that he is definitely not smarter than the generals. Iran has already retaliated, but it only seems like a matter of time before the “big brain” of Donald Trump gets soldiers killed.
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Pentagon Warns That Trump Just Put US Troops In Danger (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2019 OP
He's a danger to our nation, our democracy, and Ilsa Apr 2019 #1
Is he going to threaten China too? C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #2
Where there is a profits (for himself) ... CentralMass Apr 2019 #4
And allies of Iran superpatriotman Apr 2019 #13
the RGC has a hand in nearly half of iran's economy. this is warning to Europe Kurt V. Apr 2019 #3
He wants US troops killed, so he can start a war with Iran. NBachers Apr 2019 #5
Exactly what I was thinking LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #6
It's a little early. SergeStorms Apr 2019 #11
I smell a Bolton... Grins Apr 2019 #28
As usual, someone else is driving policy decisions. Harker Apr 2019 #31
I wouldn't doubt Iranian agents will target Trump's kids and grandkids Submariner Apr 2019 #7
And Nobody will do a Damned Thing about It fascisthunter Apr 2019 #8
Yes, and The MIC is Making Money!!! McKim Apr 2019 #12
Three US troops were killed in Afghanistan today malaise Apr 2019 #9
Trump Wants to Be a War President: The Ultimate Distraction McKim Apr 2019 #10
What a mess. What a big mess everything is. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #14
Trump is listening to Bibi's war drums against Iran. Blue_true Apr 2019 #15
BINGO. I agree with you. Silver Gaia Apr 2019 #29
an ignoramus who thinks he's a genius...what could go wrong? spanone Apr 2019 #16
Thank God my husband got out! n/t AwakeAtLast Apr 2019 #17
Thinking the same way. Corgigal Apr 2019 #18
Looks like Mueller screwed up bit time. triron Apr 2019 #19
Que up the local worker's partyist, agincourt Apr 2019 #20
"If only we can start a war with Iran, maybe everybody will just forget about Russia!" struggle4progress Apr 2019 #21
SO WHAT, kacekwl Apr 2019 #22
What's the goal of putting maximum pressure on them? Kablooie Apr 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #24
But he's a stable genius who knows more than the generals Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #25
Trump "overruled" the Pentagon? JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #26
Yes, "overruled the Pentagon" ScratchCat Apr 2019 #27
The military is subject to civilian rule. JayhawkSD Apr 2019 #33
Only now he became a danger??? They are slow on the uptake. pdsimdars Apr 2019 #30
He just wants the oil. It's all for favors and kickback / payback. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #32
mother fucker has put us ALL in danger demtenjeep Apr 2019 #34

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. He's a danger to our nation, our democracy, and
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:19 PM
Apr 2019

the world. He's an idiot who thinks he knows more than experts. He needs to be removed pronto.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
2. Is he going to threaten China too?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:19 PM
Apr 2019

Cause they're putting spies in his very own house.

Oh and Russia.... facepalm

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
3. the RGC has a hand in nearly half of iran's economy. this is warning to Europe
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 04:33 PM
Apr 2019

as well to stop all trade with iran.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
6. Exactly what I was thinking
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:28 PM
Apr 2019

He'd love nothing more than some big terror attack with hundreds of US troops slaughtered. Its the only way he'd get the MSM back on his side. They are suckers for a good old revenge war.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
11. It's a little early.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:55 PM
Apr 2019

I figured this is his "win in 2020" election strategy, only he doesn't want to get bogged down there for too long. Then it gets "counter-productive" for his "victory" strategy. I figure around the end of this year, the beginning of 2020, perhaps even on to next spring. He could saber rattle until then I suppose.

Either way, the asshole is going to get people killed for no good reason at all. The United States continues it's nosedive into the pits of world standing under Trump.

Harker

(14,018 posts)
31. As usual, someone else is driving policy decisions.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 11:42 AM
Apr 2019

Trumpsky doesn't know enough to care.

It's getting late for the warmongerer Bolton to instigate combat. He needs to get cracking while the time is right.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
7. I wouldn't doubt Iranian agents will target Trump's kids and grandkids
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:29 PM
Apr 2019

If Donnie attacks Iran, I would not want to be a Trump for the next decade or so. Donnie could be dooming his family.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
8. And Nobody will do a Damned Thing about It
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:49 PM
Apr 2019

because the system is broken and rigged, and has been for a loooooong time.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
12. Yes, and The MIC is Making Money!!!
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:55 PM
Apr 2019

Yes, and the MIC and its investors are making more and more money from these wars.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
10. Trump Wants to Be a War President: The Ultimate Distraction
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:54 PM
Apr 2019

This is a very dangerous move. Trump wants to be a war president as a war with Iran would be the ultimate distraction from all Trump’s domestic scandals. The American people tend to support their presidents once a war starts. Remember how the Peace Movement folded up after Bush started The War on Iraq?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Trump is listening to Bibi's war drums against Iran.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:33 PM
Apr 2019

Nothing else matters. Going to war with Iran would pose enormous logistical hurdles for the military and result in likely tens of thousands American troops being killed.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
29. BINGO. I agree with you.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 11:29 AM
Apr 2019

This is a pro-Netanyahu stance. He is doing whatever he can to help Bibi get reelected, IMO.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
16. an ignoramus who thinks he's a genius...what could go wrong?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:35 PM
Apr 2019

He and bolton are salivating for a war and bolton has been angling to take out Iran for decades

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. Thinking the same way.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:45 PM
Apr 2019

My family is out, please young people don't volunteer. If he wants his war on then he needs to activate the draft. Let some hedge funds kids go.

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
20. Que up the local worker's partyist,
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019

with a militant 30lbs doo-doo in his pants, about Trump being a "peace" president because he chats with NK Kim.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
23. What's the goal of putting maximum pressure on them?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 06:55 PM
Apr 2019

What is this supposed to accomplish?
What could the Iranian government do to appease him other than disband?

Sounds like he's itching for a war and wants American deaths so he can proclaim himself a war hero.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
26. Trump "overruled" the Pentagon?
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 10:19 AM
Apr 2019

Regardless of the wisdom of declaring a portion of Iran's military to be a terrorist organization, a move that I consider reckless and irresponsible, Politico said that, "Trump chose to overrule the Pentagon after..."

Whether we and Politico like it or not, Trump is Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and the commander does not "overrule" those who serve under him. He may be disregarding their advice, but doing so is very much within his wheelhouse, and this Jason Easley character is attributing a level of power to the military which it may have in countries like Egypt, but most certainly does not have in this nation.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
27. Yes, "overruled the Pentagon"
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 10:33 AM
Apr 2019

The COI doesn't make these decisions without input from the Pentagon, and he has no basis to not follow their advice. The Pentagon makes these type of decisions, and in the event there is a deranged lunatic in the WH who wont listen, yes, he has to overrule the Pentagon.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
33. The military is subject to civilian rule.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 08:49 PM
Apr 2019

The Pentagon does not make decisions to be overruled by the civilian government. The military (Pentagon) carries out decisions that are made by the civilian government. Period. End of story.

The president has every basis not to follow the advice given by the Pentagon, and the Pentagon is grossly out of line to be critical of any decision made by the president. My father served 43 years in the uniform of the armed forces of this nation, and I served six, and it is part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice that military people may not make public statements in contradiction of the civilian leadership of this nation.

I don't even know what your second sentence even means. It is gibberish. It is utterly absurd to suggest that, "the Pentagon makes these type of decisions," as that institution most certainly does nothing of the sort.

And as to, "in the event there is a deranged lunatic in the WH who wont listen, yes, he has to overrule the Pentagon." What? Who has to overrule what?

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
34. mother fucker has put us ALL in danger
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 08:51 PM
Apr 2019

he is going to get us all nuked before it is all over.


and there were many instances that could have prevented it

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