Replace sad with delusional wankers and then THIS

[Soph0571]

[FakeNoose]

1. What's sad (to me) is that many of them actually think this way

[certainot]

2. liberals are surprised by this disaster but all they had to do is turn on rw radio once in while or

multiply the stupid liars on fox x 100

stephen miller is a good eg - here's from an atlantic article

When high-profile Republicans are asked to describe their early intellectual influences, they tend to name-check a lot of the same Serious Thinkers: Edmund Burke. Milton Friedman. Friedrich Hayek. Maybe Ayn Rand. Miller’s list is different. When I asked him which books had shaped his politics, he rattled off a procession of titles by screed artists and talk-radio personalities, including David Horowitz—the author of such works as Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes—and Larry Elder, who wrote The Ten Things You Can’t Say in America. What these books lacked in substance, they made up for in visceral appeal. “When I read Rush Limbaugh’s The Way Things Ought to Be, it was like a page-turning thriller to me,” Miller recalled, fondly. “Every page was like some new revelation.”

mick mulvaney proudly called himself a "rush baby" - someone who grew up with the 'wit and wisdom' of the loudest ignorant racist liar and global warming denier on the planet, who might as well be working for the kremlin, who is neighbor and friend of trump

[Farmer-Rick]

5. So, you are blaming liberals for RW radio and Limpballs?

No, the blame goes to the GOP and the American oligarchs, America's most wealthy, America's top capitalist who funded and still fund this screed of evil. People like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, the Google scammers and of course the Koch brothers, the Waltons and even Warren Buffet. Yes, some of the uber rich complain about current conditions but do they do anything about it? Do they put their huge bundle of wealth to work to end the drift into our new Dark Age? No, because they love it.

They created a monsterous theology (And really Friedman a serious thinker? He merely justified monsterous greed. Yes, he got a Nobel prize in economics which I like to call the award created to thank the best appeaser.) The "trickle on" and "free market" crap was created by the same uber rich who created Hitler. So now our American Capitalist Oligarchs can get and keep as much of Our National Wealth as they can shove into their cavernous gullets and then blame liberals for it.

[certainot]

6. ignoring talk radio is the biggest political mistake in history, and it continues

if a guy gets on the corner across from your house and screams your sister's a whore, your brother's a thief and your ideas are treasonous all day from every corner and stump in the country and you do nothing for 30 years, who's the problem there? the dem party and allied orgs have done nothing for 30 years while they take donations of time and money - they need a lot of blame because they have the resources to do something about it

it's not about competing with hate and lies and bullshit and a protected 20-1 monopoly is not a representation of american market demand for that. and those few hundred think tank scripted liars are not 'political entertainers' enjoying free speech.

there's no more effective offense that democrats could do to the GOP and trump than start giving talk radio the attention it deserves

it's really easy for the city-living leaders of the dem party and progressive orgs who waste our donations and effort by ignoring that messaging domination kicking our ass every day. then they blame symptoms of all that coordinated repetition, like money, corruption, immigration, hacking, social media, voter suppression, etc

ignoring talk radio it makes it easy to sell the bothsiderism because it's constantly legitimizing the lying fake bullshit side with pure unchallenged repetition and high volume buzz, enabling lazy talking heads and politicians that need a made-to-order constituency to point to to legitimize their pro corporate corruption money game.

we let limbaugh call christine "ballsey" ford a liar and paid dem operative for 3 weeks straight and the result was the same as when we let him do similar to anita hill. and we're still blaming biden for thinking the callers on the phones screaming at his staff about high tech lynchings and paid democrat operatives were a legitimate part of his constituency, just like claire mccaskill thought invading aliens was actually an issue instead of used as a tool the last 2 decades to sell voter suppression legislation

we just let limbaugh and sons spend 2 years attacking the 'deep state' coup conspiracy and mueller and investigators and recently they've been sending death threats to OAC, omar, etc. they're going to keep trump in and force a lot of compromise merely because we/dems/left do nothing

republican radio is a very important part of this disasster and it is now very vulnerable thx to AI

thanks to artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription it's now possible to digitize large samplings of republican talk radio so it's invisibility cloak can be pulled off and it can finally be pushed into the free speech spectrum. as soon as the ad industry realizes a stoprush x100 is now possible it will cause them to start asking clients if they really want to support trump, racism, global warming denial, etc.

that will finally apply market demand and destroy the 20-1 monopoly.

and it would also help if the dem party and or the media would poll for talk radio....

trump, like bush, would never have gotten close to the white house without their unchallenged talk radio repetition.

ignoring talk radio continues to be the biggest political mistake in history

[Farmer-Rick]

8. You have a point but it wasn't a mistake

The whole pumping out of evil RW lies on every radio in America was for all practical purposes ignored by the more liberal party for many years. And look at all the pod casts and other news outlets that came out because of it. People know they are being fed lies and they turned away. But not all Americans obviously turned away. A lot of them bought into it.

But it was NOT because liberals just couldn't be bothered. It's NOT because they didn't see it as a threat to liberal ideology. It's because in our pay to play democracy as in our economy, the same handful of rich American oligarchs control most everything and are funding All sides. Because though all the American Capitalist Oligarchs agree the party has to keep going on, they don't always agree on how.

As Marx described, the government becomes a manager for the handful of rich families, like knights and lords in feudal England. Our democracy has been turned into a systematic means of controlling and managing workers, laborers, farmers and funneling wealth to the wealthy. Those born to the right families at the right time get it all, the rest of us struggle from the moment we are born.

It is RW radio's job to feed us lies to keep us appeased, find a scapegoat, or judas goat, any reason, just don't blame the rich people who are feeding you the lies. AND the other more liberal party also benefited from this distraction of the truth because they also get their funding from the the same kings. So, they ignored it as much as they could.

But now those people who turned away from RW radio are starting to find their voice despite all the manipulation and distraction that money can buy.

[certainot]

9. disagree. the big money needs to create made-to-order constituencies and that's what rw radio does

better than any other media. it's the only major medium with no direct challenge from the left. it exists outside of the free speech spectrum and the left's ignorance of it is essential to its success in selling big lies all day.

the 20-1 monopoly that billions in debt is a propaganda operation, not a measure of an audience of people waiting for trickle down ready to kiss billionaire ass

and it is only successful because the left/dems ignore it

[Farmer-Rick]

11. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

[certainot]

13. i'm saying democracy's not working, talk radio is the main reason for that, and the orgs that have

the resources to challenge republican talk radio have not.

instead people blame both sides, give up on trying, blame billionaires who can't do shit without misinforming huge parts of the country.

unless you live in one of the few places without rw radio or in a city, if you're a liberal or democrat whatever issues concern you will go a lot slower or never thanks to a few ignorant think tank liars on the local radio stations. it would be completely different with a few liberal talkers around but they keep a 20-1 protected subsidized monopoly because the left is stupid about whats kicking their ass.

[Farmer-Rick]

14. I agree that everything you describe is happening

Only I don't think the more liberal party is stupid and ignoring it.

I think they are getting paid by the same rich white men who reassure them the hate radio is keeping the status quo safe, their status quo safe. They got elected in this hate radio world and they think it helps them too.

It's like a rich man saying the economy is good. It's good for him but when the majority of citizens are in poverty, as is the case in the US, there is something wrong. The more liberal party, that keeps their mouth shut about hate radio, is that rich man who can't see the poverty.

[certainot]

16. 98% of liberals and democrats ive talked to over the years were totally ignorant of talk radio

and i still get peopel repeating the bullshit rw talking points about it

it is invisible to them - they listen to music, read and watch, analyze politicsz as if studying fish without water, and then blame symptoms and 'spineless' bought out democrats

until the left recognizes it as the right's best weapon and stops ignoring it, giving up on democracy or just trying to ramp up GOTV and donations is ridiculous

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. You keep saying to "stop ignoring it

What are you suggesting "liberals and democrats" do?

[certainot]

22. i said it before. any attention - protests at stations and the universities that support RW radio

stations (even better), and boycotts - ANY attention to republican radio will expose that it is now very vulnerable thx to AI

with artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription it's now possible to digitize large samplings of republican talk radio so it's invisibility cloak can be pulled off and it can finally be pushed into the free speech spectrum.

protests at a few of the 88 universities that keep 260 limbaugh stations going will spread - rw radio won't survive

it can be recorded and transcribed on the local level too and all advertisers listed and associated directly with the hate and lies they sponsor - with very little listening required. it's already 20BIL+ in debt and as soon as the ad industry realizes a stoprush x100 is now possible it will cause them to start asking clients if they really want to support trump, racism, global warming denial, etc.

that will finally apply market demand and destroy the 20-1 monopoly, democratize it.

it is really stupid dems continue to ignore the right's best weapon, the only reason trump can push the gop to protest him is the russian tool limbaugh and the 300 liars on 1500 radio stations theat follow him.

it would also help if the dem party and or the media would poll for talk radio....

[Aristus]

12. I don't listen to hate-radio in order to pretend it doesn't exist.

I don't listen to hate-radio because it's toxic. On the rare occasions when I'd listen, I would be short-tempered, irritable, sarcastic, and pessimistic. For the sake of my personal happiness and my mental and emotional health, I stay away from it. I'm still aware of its poisonous effect on the public discourse. I just can't do anything about it. Not listening to it at least gets its advertisers one less audience-member.

"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretense was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic." - Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell.

[paleotn]

17. I don't listen to hate radio...

because I'd go through a hell of a lot of radios.



Same with Fux News....

[certainot]

7. when people blame the rich and money in politics they blame a symptom of a dysfunctional

democracy that the rich have managed to subvert - in large part thanks to democrats and liberals ignoring the only unique advantage the rich have - 1500 corporate think tank-coordinated radio stations that have been used to sell "corporations are people" "money is free speech" "liberal media" "media deregulation will reduce prices" trickle down free market bullshit

democracy was designed to regulate money in politics and the talk radio monopoly has been the only major medium with no direct challenge from the left

[Farmer-Rick]

10. NO the rich ARE to blame.

They are the cause of our dysfunctional democracy and RW hate speech in the media.They are the ones who created Trump. Their money funds this crap, at a loss for awhile, then at a profit....when you get enough people to believe this RW crap.

BUT it is capitalism that has made it so that a handful of rich American Oligarchs can do this to the rest of us.

[Pepsidog]

3. I have found that many Trumpanzees get their news primarily from memes

It’s sad. They have no attention span and he most of their news from Facebook Memes. I was talking to a neighbor who is a 53 year old neurosurgeon and she was talking crazy shit. Like how Obama should be arrested. A real conspiracy nut when it comes to politics and the economy. We have a real problem. Then I ask myself, “am I the real nut case” believing what I believe.

[irisblue]

4. Pictographs

For the intellectually limited

[paleotn]

18. What the hell is it with neurologists?

As surgeon go, they're a bit weird, but geez! Whispering Ben Carson is not an anomaly.

[Pepsidog]

23. It's incredible a person who is at the top of the medical profession is a stone cold Republican fool

I was at her home several months ago and saw mail thanking her for supporting the Bush Presidential Library. Full blown conspiracy nut who buys the wildest right wing conspiracy there is. But if I’m honest, while we are friends, she is a typical I don’t give a shit about anyone but myself Republican. A real Trumper, can be charming in social situations but will manipulate and use the hell out of you. Another doctor I know a psychiatrist whi I thought was a real decent man recently confided to me that 911 was an inside job and all the mass shooting we see are just actors. A real Alex Jones conspiracy nut. But it took knowing him for 5 years before he told me this. He also thinks his patients are from the government to entrap him. We are doomed .....

[maxsolomon]

15. This misses the point.

A Reality TV Star is sticking it to those eggheads who think they're better than you are. THAT is what they want. Revenge. Revanchism.

Spite is when you hurt yourself to hurt another.

[dalton99a]

20. Up is down in Trumpworld.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

21. Thanks, Soph. Here's the text.....

(for copy and pasting - perfect for printing and handing to deplorables that want to pick a fight)

How sad it must be - believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

........