How deep is the conflict between Barr and Mueller?

[kentuck]

Last edited Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)

From my gleanings of Mr Barr's testimony this morning, there appears to be a deep fissure between the two.

First of all, he said he offered to let Mr Mueller read his letter before he submitted it to Congress and Mueller declined? Why would he decline?

Also, he said there was a meeting with Mueller, Rosenstein, and himself on March 6. That coincidentally happened to be the time the rumor was put out that Mueller was wrapping up his investigation. It was at that time that Mueller said he could not exonerate Mr Trump at this time.

Mr Barr was obviously doing the bidding of Mr Trump by attempting to wrap up the investigation before Mr Mueller was finished. Mr Mueller's team was forced to come out and say they were not going to finish their investigation at that time.

Since Mr Barr said he wrote the letter by himself, why did he put the sentence about how the Specil Counsel "could not exonerate" Mr Trump into his letter? Then come to a totally different conclusion than Mr Mueller?

In my opinion, Mr Mueller is very, very pissed off with the whole charade and cover-up and Mr Barr is attempting to appease him by letting him work on the redactions. The Mueller team has already expressed their exasperation with Mr Barr's efforts.

Mr Mueller would love to be called to testify before the Congress, in my opinion. He would prefer it to be in private so he could let it all hang out.

Mr Barr did not just put his narrative on the investigation, he put his narrative to the role that Mr Mueller had in the release of his letter and his disgraceful conclusions.

It does appear that Mr Barr is carrying the water for Mr Trump and not the American people. When asked if the White House had read the report, he refused to answer and changed the subject.

[SWBTATTReg]

1. Good, solid guesses here. Very good. Thanks for sharing. NT

[Harker]

2. He'd decline

so as to avoid the misperception that he vouched for Barr's half-arsed "conclusions."

Robert Mueller will have his work aired some day. Soon, I hope.

[kentuck]

3. Mueller knew what Barr was going to say in his letter

...and did not want to participate in the cover-up.

[The_Counsel]

4. The (Attempted) Fix was in the Moment Barr was Nominated to the AG Post.

Ever since the "Mueller Report nearing completion" rumors began in earnest, I had this bad feeling in the pit of my belly that Trump was sending Mueller a message to "wrap this thing up or else." Even now, the report feels incomplete. Reading passages like the following do nothing to quell that feeling:

"Also, he said there was a meeting with Mueller, Rosenstein, and himself on March 6. That coincidentally happened to be the time the rumor was put out that Mueller was wrapping up his investigation. It was at that time that Mueller said he could not exonerate Mr Trump at this time."

Well, of COURSE he could neither exonerate nor indict at the time. Dude hadn't even FINISHED HIS WORK. Barr knew it. Trump knew it. This is just their newest plan to stop the investigation. And we're all getting played....

[kentuck]

5. Barr was ordered to finish the investigation.

I agree. Mueller was not finished with his investigation.

A classic cover-up.

[KPN]

6. So far, we are letting them ghet away with this.

[leftynyc]

7. WHERE are you getting this?

Mr Mueller is very, very pissed off with the whole charade and cover-up and Mr Barr is attempting to appease him by letting him work on the redactions. The Mueller team has already expressed their exasperation with Mr Barr's efforts.


I've seen absolutely nothing from Mueller himself and certainly nothing that would steer me into thinking he's pissed off at all.

[kentuck]

8. It has been reported that some of his team has leaked information...

...indicating their dissatisfaction with Barr's conclusions, when they had done their own summaries, which he ignored.

You forgot to include "in my opinion" in your quote.

I am reading between the lines and giving my opinion from Mr Barr's disjointed comments. But, I doubt that Mr Mueller would be in disagreement with his team?

Barr said he wrote both of his letters without any input from Mueller. Common sense might say that might piss off anyone who had worked for two years to see it discounted in such a way?

[leftynyc]

9. So you didn't hear anything

from Mueller himself. His team is obviously unhappy (though none will go on the record) and I was looking for the proof that Mueller was "pissed off". I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever.

[kentuck]

10. Yes, that is my opinion.

I did not read it on a tweet or hear it mentioned by Ken Delanian or anyone on MSNBC or any of the cable networks. It all came from my own vivid imagination. I "gleaned it" from what I saw with my own two eyes. Nobody knows the answers until we can read the report or hear from Mr Mueller himself.

[ffr]

11. I think Barr & tRump pressured Mueller to wrap it up in no certain terms.

Investigation incomplete. Obstruction of Justice.

[kentuck]

13. That does appear to be the case...

I think we will eventually know the truth about the matter.

[watoos]

12. Barr and Mueller have been friends for a very long time,

if one can believe reports from the M$M.

They may not be friends now, however.

[kentuck]

14. I wonder how much that was for public consumption...

Their wives go to church together?

I think we should take that with a grain of salt.

[Texin]

15. I believe Barr put the kibosh on Mueller's further investigation into this.

Barr had "auditioned" for the role of Attorney General by writing that letter to tRump, and I believe that Shitler was getting antsy to ratchet up his reelection* activities, so he needed the investigation to done with, and he needed to be able to tell the electorate that he'd been "exonerated", so he ordered the investigation ended, his name "cleared", and Barr complied. It's what Barr went into with every intention of being a good soldier and carrying out Shitler's orders, because he is right wing fanatical ideologue that essentially believes the presidency and the Executive branch (including American oligarchs) is a monarchy that is above he laws that govern the common men and women.

Mueller was sacked, and that meeting on March 6 was Barr (and Rosenstein) providing cover for it by quietly taking if out of Mueller's hands, but pretending as if it was all Mueller's intent.

[Karadeniz]

16. Heroism once again beckons Mueller. Hope he answers the call.

[LiberalLovinLug]

17. "In my opinion, Mr Mueller is very, very pissed off with the whole charade and cover-up"

Then where is he? Where is his patriotism? If the investigation is done, isn't he freer to speak his mind now?

He's proving to be just another Republican following St. Ron’s eleventh commandment, ‘Never speak ill of another Republican'. And if there is some ugliness you can't avoid, then slather on the lip stick. Just as Comey, yet another life long Republican downplaying Russia helping Trump and at the same time elevated the fake news scandal on Hillary's emails.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. No. You're not used to how honorable people behave, now in the tRump era. Mueller is by the book. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Mueller declined to read the letter because then silence would be consent and he can't really speak.

Mueller is smart, smarter (and wiser) than Barr who is very clever.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Re "could not exonerate" quote: Barr is a master at plausible deniability. He's covering his coverup

He's trying to have it both ways: