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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo what's next folks?
Barr said he's never going to release an unredacted report.
Mnuchin will fight his tax release.
Are we looking at Congress not seeing either before the election? Or after for that matter?
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)or will subpoena Mueller et al. We mere mortals will never see the unredacted version until a Dem in in the White House again.
Mnuchin et al will force a court fight, which could well last until after the election. It's what bullies do.
triron
(22,006 posts)No holds barred. (no pun intended)
SHRED
(28,136 posts)...they need to hear from Rosenstein and Mueller.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Fuck it...I will not obey laws that are freely broken by other men...this is not a monarchy or empire or dictatorship (yet). The law either applies to all men or it is useless and applies to none but the slaves willing to submit to tyranny.
Full scale civil disobedience and rioting will be next. Non-violent protests will turn to riots and then to civil war. We either live in a representative republic or we do not. Once we do not, then revolution and war are the only answers to restore a functional government.
Or Trump could die of a massive stroke in the next 10 minutes...hope, hope, hope...
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)GOP are a threat to the human race and MUST be treated accordingly.
You find out the guy who does this or that for you is a con, you fire him (as in independent contractors you hire like electrician or lawnmower, etc)
KPN
(15,646 posts)correction, that is all that will be left.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Putin is in charge of our military and foreign policy.
A traitor is in the WH, and we are still hearing news-people refer to rump as the "president"
The best part of all this is this SO CALLED group that is ALLEGEDLY on the left who are working FEVERISHLY to make sure nobody with a D gets in the WH.
I give up, hell I cant even talk about it, why should I care anymore?
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)There are still channels that our elected democrats need to continue to pursue... However, I dont believe that we will see the report or his taxes until 2020 and perhaps never if we do not put people in office that will make them available.
Thats all there is to it. We need to win everything and we need to stay focused on that right now. The fact that they are illegally keeping that info from us is the campaigning strategy that we can and should use.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)That's the next step, and then it ends up in court.
Bottom line: We may not see those things before the 2020 election. We need to focus on that election and on winning the presidency and both houses of Congress. That will enable us to begin recovering from what Trump has done.
Focus. If we can't get immediate satisfaction, we'll need to work on an alternative solution.
DontBooVote
(901 posts)of Congress"?
I mean besides your contribution to this forum. Perhaps it's time, since we can't get immediate satisfaction, to hold each other accountable regarding the next election*.
* An election I have no reason to believe will be any different in it's result than any putin election has in russia. But I digress...for now.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Democratic Party organization, as always. GOTV efforts, most likely. That's what I've been doing since I was 15 years old, in 1960. I'm old, now, so I'll be doing less than I have done in previous elections, I suppose.
DontBooVote
(901 posts)and administrative stuff.
Thank you for your past efforts. My group has been working non-stop (and meeting every Monday night, sans holidays) since Feb 2017. And so have the several groups/GOTV efforts that have spun-off from that first meeting, of which I am a charter co-founder.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Yes, I'll probably be doing phone banking this election. I used to walk my entire precinct and knock on every door, but my hips and knees won't allow that any longer.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Then let the courts have him. Nancy said it first - "He's not worth it". (The huge efforts and sacrifice to go through impeachment.)
DontBooVote
(901 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,864 posts)DontBooVote
(901 posts)supposed to be her victory party? Remember her disappointment?
Do you remember our disappointment and how crushed we were when that election was stolen from Hillary and from us? Remember how physically ill it made you, us, when we realized tRump would be in the Oval Office instead of Hillary?
What if that happens again, the election is stolen? Then what? Wait until 2022...2024...26...28...40...60?
Fullduplexxx
(7,864 posts)DontBooVote
(901 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,864 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)or we can fill those news cycles with information about our candidates, to help us pick the best one to go after the beast.
There's nothing in either the full unredacted Mueller Report or Trump's tax returns that will erode his base. If we focus on what positive change will come from our regaining the White House, it will be more motivational to the voter in the mushy middle that we desperately need this time around.