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Ted Lieu plays Candace Owens' comments on Hitler to her during hearing (Original Post) swag Apr 2019 OP
Nicely played Sir. CentralMass Apr 2019 #1
I mean.. JHan Apr 2019 #2
... Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #5
It's really sad she even has a platform. JHan Apr 2019 #6
Exactly why she has a platform. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #28
+++++++ well said as usual. JHan Apr 2019 #31
I liked Lieu's introduction to playing Owens' comments gratuitous Apr 2019 #3
Candace Owens, a white nationalist, is a BLACK WOMAN????? hedda_foil Apr 2019 #4
"Candace Owens is an American conservative commentator and political activist. FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #7
I have no doubt that russia is behind her Blexit movement, shes just after the big bucks yaesu Apr 2019 #9
Satan Du Jour? Doremus Apr 2019 #12
So she's 29 charliea Apr 2019 #16
Miroslav? n/t Harker Apr 2019 #22
Does nationalism have a color? MagickMuffin Apr 2019 #8
Of course it doesn't have a colour. Owens is just different in carrying water for OnDoutside Apr 2019 #11
She thinks she's "one of the good 'uns", and by playing ball she'll get a pass RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #18
there was an episode of either the outer limits or the twilight zone qazplm135 Apr 2019 #33
Yes Nationalism has a color. Caliman73 Apr 2019 #29
This kind of nationalism most definitely has a color and it's WHITE. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #34
Is her new theme: "Down with us!" ? 3Hotdogs Apr 2019 #19
Outstanding! Paladin Apr 2019 #10
Sorry I missed that - I was watching a little bit of the hearing and some of what Owens said... George II Apr 2019 #13
It's a good thing Ted Lieu, and not me, was in charge of that hearing jmowreader Apr 2019 #14
Good man, that. What was the occasion for the hearing? Hekate Apr 2019 #15
For an African American Woman; 100% Pure Shame. djacq Apr 2019 #17
If she had said, Cold War Spook Apr 2019 #20
In a brief interview as she was walking somewhere, pangaia Apr 2019 #21
By chance, was she off to the theater? mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2019 #25
Got it. If Hitler had simply stuck to only exterminating GERMAN Jews ... 11 Bravo Apr 2019 #23
Candace Owens Ran a Trump-Bashing Website Less Than 2 Years Ago. Color Us Shocked EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #24
Telling the truth about them pisses them off Leith Apr 2019 #26
she looked like she didn't like that n/t KayF Apr 2019 #27
Owens is to Trump as Trump is to Putin. VOX Apr 2019 #30
Disturbing ck4829 Apr 2019 #32

JHan

(10,173 posts)
2. I mean..
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:27 PM
Apr 2019

You don't often hear ... " If only Hitler kept his killing of Jews to Germany, it would have been fine and within his rights, but him wanting to kill Jews outside of Germany was really too much"

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
28. Exactly why she has a platform.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 05:34 PM
Apr 2019

Her platform exists so that she can be used to muddy the waters on the racist policies and rhetoric by the administration and Trump supporters. She is Black she can't possibly support racist policies, therefore Trump and his supporters can't possibly be racist; is the role she is designed to fill.

Anything that supports the White Supremacist status quo will receive support and have a platform. Same way that Diamond and Silk are still supported by obviously racist Trump supporters. If they challenged the hegemony in messaging they would be dropped in a heartbeat, the same way the Omarosa was turned on by Trump and his supporters when she began having problems with his way of doing things.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. I liked Lieu's introduction to playing Owens' comments
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 02:39 PM
Apr 2019

Basically saying, "Out of all the people in the world to choose from, the Republicans asked Candace Owens to be their witness at this hearing on white nationalism." He might as well have concluded, "Jesus, you guys! Was David Duke unavailable?!"

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
7. "Candace Owens is an American conservative commentator and political activist.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

She is known for her pro-Trump stance and her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party. She is the Director of Communications at the right wing advocacy group Turning Point USA. Wikipedia

Born: April 29, 1989 (age 29 years), Stamford, CT
Nationality: American
Full name: Candace Amber Owens
Parents: Satan and Mrs. Satan du jour

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=GfCsXOymLIPWjwTX3orQBA&q=candace+owens&oq=Candace+Owens&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131l3j0i3j0i131j0i3j0l3j0i3.501.501..3280...0.0..0.227.227.2-1......0....2j1..gws-wiz.....0.HIxGMLVJihk

(all but the last part)

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
9. I have no doubt that russia is behind her Blexit movement, shes just after the big bucks
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:32 PM
Apr 2019

either from fox snooze or putins billions.

charliea

(260 posts)
16. So she's 29
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:24 PM
Apr 2019

Same age as the new Democratic star AOC. I know who's accomplished more and who I admire more...

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
8. Does nationalism have a color?
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:28 PM
Apr 2019

I must confess as I do not know the answer. However, I would tend to believe that it doesn't recognize color.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
11. Of course it doesn't have a colour. Owens is just different in carrying water for
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

White Nationalists in the U.S.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
33. there was an episode of either the outer limits or the twilight zone
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 06:05 PM
Apr 2019

that involved aliens coming to Earth and I believe to America specifically and saying we will give you everything you want, but you have to give us all your Black people.

And I think it was Sherman Helmsley was playing like a Black Republican political operative, and he is thinking surely this White guys value me, and will carve out a special exception for me, and ultimately it was like....nope!

She thinks she gets a pass if she's anti-black/minority enough.

(she won't).

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
29. Yes Nationalism has a color.
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 05:39 PM
Apr 2019

Nationalism is typically about identity but in America that national identity has typically been White. That isn't to say that people of color cannot be nationalists. There was, and likely still is a Black Nationalist movement in the US, but they are typically fringe and have no power in society. Historically it was about having a small piece of land where they could be together or in the case of Marcus Garvey, repatriating to some part of the African continent.

American nationalism almost always denotes White nationalism. I put a video titled White Fascism on this thread that explains the situation.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
10. Outstanding!
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:44 PM
Apr 2019

Thank you, Rep. Ted Lieu, for an absolutely masterful takedown of a deserving target. Keep up the good work.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Sorry I missed that - I was watching a little bit of the hearing and some of what Owens said...
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

...but would love to see that! I understand she was angry about being put on the spot. Tough!

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
14. It's a good thing Ted Lieu, and not me, was in charge of that hearing
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

After playing Ms. Owens' effusive praise of Adolf Hitler, my first question would have been "Ms. Owens, what the fuck is wrong with you?"

However, Rep. Lieu did a really good job of owning her.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
20. If she had said,
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:40 PM
Apr 2019

If Hitler did not attack another country and only killed the Jews in Germany he would have gotten away with it, I believe she would have been right. No, I am not condoning it, but even the US turned away Jews knowing they would be killed.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
21. In a brief interview as she was walking somewhere,
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:43 PM
Apr 2019

she referred to the Republican Party and the Democrat Party.

That tells you all you need to know.

Somebody needs to tap this young lady upside the side of the head with a tire iron---- figuratively speaking, of course...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
25. By chance, was she off to the theater?
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 05:12 PM
Apr 2019

"C'mon, Germans, go into your dance."



Thoughfully, I have not posted what I started out to post.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
23. Got it. If Hitler had simply stuck to only exterminating GERMAN Jews ...
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 04:57 PM
Apr 2019

Candace would be down with that. It was only the attempt to export his particular brand of mass murder that ruffles her fee-fees.

Yup, that right there is the perfect fucking spokesperson for today's Republican party.

 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
24. Candace Owens Ran a Trump-Bashing Website Less Than 2 Years Ago. Color Us Shocked
Tue Apr 9, 2019, 05:02 PM
Apr 2019


https://www.theroot.com/your-girl-candace-owens-ran-a-trump-bashing-website-les-1826071683


Among the stories that ran on the site: A critical look at Trump’s Muslim ban titled, “Serious Question: Is Donald Trump a Social Experiment?,” in which the writer compared Trump to Hitler; an explainer on how Trump can still be a racist even if he’s married to an immigrant; and a satirical “investigation” into the size of Trump’s penis (spoiler: probably small, the story concludes).
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