People in the know help me here please. Could the House start impeachment proceedings just

[bluestarone]

For the purpose of getting the Mueller report and tRUMPS taxes? Then delay the process until a closer to election time? I read somewhere that if impeachment was started by the house THESE documents would have to be provided without delay. Is this wrong? TY in advance.

[greymattermom]

1. I've been thinking the same thing.

Nancy could say she was forced to do it to uncover the evidence needed to determine whether or not there is a case for impeachment.

[bluestarone]

4. My thoughts too!

[watoos]

5. Bingo!

Speaker Pelosi, put impeachment back on the table.

[bluestarone]

10. It probably will take a year for this to go through all the courts BUT

That would put it right at election time! We need to START NOW!

[watoos]

2. Barr said as much today,

If the House moves to impeach it will get the grand jury testimony. I don't know about the taxes, the House should get those according to what the law says, but who are Republicans to follow the law?

[mr_lebowski]

3. Whatever people believe 'has to be provided in case X,Y,Z' ... no longer applies

This is a completely lawless administration.

IMHO, we're no more likely to get Justice to hand over the unredacted Mueller report by initiating impeachment proceedings ... than we are if we didn't.

Barr's playing a game of 'chicken' and just hopes the Dems will impeach, cause he knows the Senate won't convict, and he also has no intention of handing over the report even if they DID.

And they've fast-tracked enough Trumpist judges that they're likely to get away with it. In fact, they've actually shown, in a number of cases, that they're not even going to follow what a Judge orders them to do.

They don't care about the law, and will simply refuse to disclose anything they don't want to.

[watoos]

6. Barr pretty much said today,

that impeachment would be one of the reasons that he would release grand jury information.

[mr_lebowski]

8. I amended my note to address your comment upthread ...

I think he's full of shit.

He's trying to get Dems to humiliate themselves with a failed impeachment attempt, given the Senate make-up.

And he still wouldn't hand them over if Dems did impeach.

It's a sucker-play.

[NewJeffCT]

20. If they just start holding hearings

that could drag on for months. It was almost a year from the initial Watergate hearings until the impeachment proceedings started.

[bluestarone]

7. THIS is something we all should be concerned about

Got to STOP (or slow down)these judges from being fast tracked.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

9. That shipped sailed long ago

The latest rule change just put the inevitable confirmations on the fast track by cutting debate time down from 30 hours to 2 hours on all nominees except Cabinent level, SCOTUS, or Appeals court nominees.

[Karadeniz]

11. I don't view impeachment alone, forget the Senate, as a failure.

For one thing, Trump needs to join those select few presidents admitted to the impeachment club. I look forward to every write-up about him in history books including the fact that he qualified to have "impeached" forever attached to his name. As we have read, Jr. is expressing interest in running for an office. I think Trump-impeached might dampen a lot of interest in people supporting another clown act.

I also think that if the house can get the Mueller information out to the public, devastation will ensue for Trump. Even if the Senate acquits, all that information can be used to destroy a second candidacy and taint his reputation.

I doubt a conviction is necessary for the impeachment to be effective.

[bluestarone]

12. Do you feel that the impeachment process is the best way to get THAT Mueller info out there?

What would be the most EFFECTIVE way to get the Mueller report and tRUMPS taxes?

[Karadeniz]

21. I wish we'd start the preliminary impeachment process, entitling access to everything.

I know Pelosi is thinking about political ramifications. I think it's likely that having facts could well make us stronger in 2020. I'm glad the chairpersons are getting more forceful in expecting results from the dark side.

[kentuck]

13. Could they vote to have impeachment hearings but....?

,,,not take a vote on impeachment later?

[bluestarone]

14. THIS is my thought (WHY i'm asking this of the people in the know)

Do it ONLY to get the info we want!! It will take a year i'm sure. BUT we need to do it NOW!

[kentuck]

15. Interesting strategy.

I wonder if Republicans would press the Democrats to have an impeachment vote?

[bluestarone]

16. They can't do anything til we decide.

[SlogginThroughIt]

17. It is almost like Barr wants Dems to impeach to get the report

It is almost like Barr wants Dems to impeach to get the report. I have to stop and ask why that is.

Impeaching as a tool to get that info seems like a BAD idea to me. Exhaust all other efforts to get the report and use their refusal to campaign against them.

I don’t think we will ever see that report or his taxes before 2020. And only if we win.

[bluestarone]

18. I see what your saying (i believe the report is not good for RUMP)

I leave it up to the DUer's that know and understand these things better than myself. That's why i'm asking for thoughts on this.

[Tipperary]

19. Not going to happen.

He is not going to be impeached. Wishing will not make it so.