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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:50 PM Apr 2019

Tribe, minutes ago: Why on earth isn't Nadler issuing the subpoena NOW? What is he waiting for?

Tweeted by Laurence Tribe since Jerry Nadler's press conference this evening:




I’m loath to criticize @RepJerryNadler but why in God’s green earth isn’t he issuing the subpoena NOW? What is he waiting for? Barr is getting the better of him and he MUST ACT NOW. Even cautious allies like me are getting disgusted with the foot-dragging. He’s losing the war.




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Editing to add Tribe's response to a tweet from Nadler:

Nadler's tweet:




I’m deeply troubled by reports that the WH is being briefed on the Mueller report AHEAD of its release. Now, DOJ is informing us we will not receive the report until around 11/12 tomorrow afternoon — AFTER Barr’s press conference. This is wrong. #ReleaseTheReport



Tribe's response to that, which he posted a couple of minutes ago:




With all respect, being “deeply troubled” is weak broth, @RepJerryNadler. Who cares how “concerned” and “troubled” you — or we — are? The Framers would be aghast at how little use we’re making of the tools they left us.


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Tribe, minutes ago: Why on earth isn't Nadler issuing the subpoena NOW? What is he waiting for? (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2019 OP
God damn fucking right. Chin music Apr 2019 #1
Exactly!!! WTF is Nadler waiting for? What has he BEEN waiting for?! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #2
I'm going to go w Mr. Tribe. He's truly brilliant. He's pissed too. Chin music Apr 2019 #4
He was trying to play by rules and give Barr time yikes Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #24
he's waiting for lazy americans to get off their asses and get in the streets certainot Apr 2019 #38
I've edited the OP to add the comment Tribe just posted on Nadler saying he was "deeply troubled" highplainsdem Apr 2019 #3
Please see my post #10 - Congress is NOT in session this week and I think next week.... George II Apr 2019 #11
See my reply to your post. The Judiciary Committee voted two weeks ago to authorize Nadler to highplainsdem Apr 2019 #16
Yes, and Nadler explained exactly why the subpoena wasn't issued at that time.... George II Apr 2019 #18
The situation's changed, and it would be insane for our representatives to think they have to highplainsdem Apr 2019 #29
APRIL 29 ! pangaia Apr 2019 #35
Right! True Blue American Apr 2019 #53
AN EMERGENCY SESSION orangecrush Apr 2019 #31
Please. Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #5
THIS !!!! WHO CARES HOW "TROUBLED" YOU ARE !?!?!? uponit7771 Apr 2019 #6
Tweety was talking tonight about House Dems getting weak kneed lately nt Grasswire2 Apr 2019 #7
gop and russian trolls love that meme certainot Apr 2019 #40
So glad Tribe zentrum Apr 2019 #8
God...me too. Chin music Apr 2019 #12
The report might accidentally have some Democratic Party members names in it. LiberalArkie Apr 2019 #9
snark? so epstien donated to both sides and he's a dem? kraft is a friend of trump and he's certainot Apr 2019 #41
Doesn't anyone here realize that Congress is not in session this week or next.... George II Apr 2019 #10
They come back in session, to save the republic? Chin music Apr 2019 #13
The republic isn't going to collapse over the weekend. George II Apr 2019 #14
We work on holidays...in order to save the country, maybe a bit more emphasis on Chin music Apr 2019 #19
With 45 & Company at the wheel, a weekend is plenty of time to eradicate democracy. VOX Apr 2019 #21
I'm not happy we all have to deal with this attack on American soil bigger than 9-11. Chin music Apr 2019 #23
Oh, you don;t think that can happen ? pangaia Apr 2019 #36
That's over the top hyperbole. A press conference 90 minutes before release threatens the republic? MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #44
It's nice to see a measured response in the sea of hyperbole. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #46
Maybe. I submit that the news cycle changes quickly after 8pm. Chin music Apr 2019 #47
The Judiciary Committee already voted -- 2 weeks ago -- to authorize the subpoena: highplainsdem Apr 2019 #15
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #17
Very few voices of reason around. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #45
Every day is the last day on earth. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #25
Wanna bet? That's what people keep saying.. pangaia Apr 2019 #37
What power did they have before Jan? They didnt control the House. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #50
Maybe they do or maybe they don't. lapucelle Apr 2019 #56
Kompromat? There's More to This Story... dlk Apr 2019 #20
DH has been yelling this for weeks now. Duppers Apr 2019 #22
Who's DH? N/T lapucelle Apr 2019 #57
Can a sternly-worded letter be far behind? shanny Apr 2019 #26
Spot on. aquamarina Apr 2019 #27
This isn't the time to dig up excuses for why we can't do anything. democrank Apr 2019 #28
can we call this guy? TalenaGor Apr 2019 #30
Put AOC in charge of Judiciary. Ligyron Apr 2019 #32
Agree.. HipChick Apr 2019 #33
+ 10,000 ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #43
Seem like the perfect storm.. playaseeker Apr 2019 #34
We are hemorrhaging voters with our "weakness". SHRED Apr 2019 #39
Troubled and Concerned Bayard Apr 2019 #42
"enough ammo to go to war." Duppers Apr 2019 #48
Situation is very fluid right now DeminPennswoods Apr 2019 #49
LOL! bc that's all i have left. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #51
He may be getting ready to go after barr duforsure Apr 2019 #52
I'm betting the report Barr "releases" woodsprite Apr 2019 #54
We all agree that this is going to end up in court, and it does nothing for our aims, to see Nadler OnDoutside Apr 2019 #55

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
1. God damn fucking right.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:51 PM
Apr 2019

And being mad shouldn't be confused w dissing D's. Time to roll Congress. You promised results. Get yourselves ready to spring.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
4. I'm going to go w Mr. Tribe. He's truly brilliant. He's pissed too.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019

I'm w Tribe.
And P.S. Dem's...if you don't have an answer that's perfect for tomorrow, MAKE SOMETHING UP. That's what the gop does, and it works. (See M. Garland.) MAybe crack some books tonight in the Halls Of Congress, and figure something the hell out. We've waited...now it's game day.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. He was trying to play by rules and give Barr time yikes
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:52 PM
Apr 2019

When will all Dems realize they are fucking us over.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. he's waiting for lazy americans to get off their asses and get in the streets
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:15 PM
Apr 2019

right now the loudest protest in the country is on 1500 asshole radio stations with a few hundred lying limbaugh parroting jerks screaming to 50 mil people a week for 2 fucking years that this is a 'deep state' coup led by obama and hillary and soros.

how many democrats is the buzz from 1500 radio stations worth, attacking investigators and dem reps like schiff and nadler? limbaugh feeders will have 2.5 hours before the limbaugh show starts to manage the spin tomorrow. but if barr gave the report to the WH before this then limbaugh would be getting some of that too to help tailor the last 2 years of 'deep state' bullshit with the actual facts in the mueller report

i keep seeing dems calling for the dem reps to 'get a backbone' and that's one of those memes the russians love to troll. americans need to show up in the streets and those radio stations and the universities and pro sports teams that support those stations pretty soon instead of bellyaching about their reps whos' offices keep getting bombarded every time some lying fascist on the radio station threatens them

highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
3. I've edited the OP to add the comment Tribe just posted on Nadler saying he was "deeply troubled"
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 08:59 PM
Apr 2019

in a tweet earlier today.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Please see my post #10 - Congress is NOT in session this week and I think next week....
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:24 PM
Apr 2019

Nadler's committee can't issue a subpoena if none of them are in Washington. That's why Barr chose this time to release the report.

highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
16. See my reply to your post. The Judiciary Committee voted two weeks ago to authorize Nadler to
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:32 PM
Apr 2019

issue the subpoena

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Yes, and Nadler explained exactly why the subpoena wasn't issued at that time....
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:36 PM
Apr 2019

It was being held until after the release of the report, which everyone agreed to at the time. I have no doubt that it will be issued shortly after Congress returns, which will be April 29.

highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
29. The situation's changed, and it would be insane for our representatives to think they have to
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:03 PM
Apr 2019

wait till the 29th to react.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. APRIL 29 !
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:05 PM
Apr 2019

Shit, there may BE no US of A by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fuck this shit.. This is a war against pure evil....

Polly Hennessey

(6,798 posts)
5. Please.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019

Nadler puts out warm, fuzzy statements and sometimes those statements are accompanied by stern looks. Nadler subpoenas? Well, we can always hope 😳. Hope and hope and hope.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. gop and russian trolls love that meme
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:23 PM
Apr 2019

and dildo concerned tweety is another dipshit analyzing fish without water and totally ignorant of the right's best weapon like 95% of democrats who think talk radio is irrelevant, while they let it take free potshots at their reps all day

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
9. The report might accidentally have some Democratic Party members names in it.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:18 PM
Apr 2019

Like and Epstein or Kraft, who knows

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
41. snark? so epstien donated to both sides and he's a dem? kraft is a friend of trump and he's
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:28 PM
Apr 2019

a dem?

this is like what limbaugh says about famous republicans who get caught fucking cats or something - they're democrats

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Doesn't anyone here realize that Congress is not in session this week or next....
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:21 PM
Apr 2019

....and that every Congressman is in their home district? That's why Barr chose this week to release the report.

How can Nadler issue a subpoena from his office in New York? C'mon folks.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
19. We work on holidays...in order to save the country, maybe a bit more emphasis on
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:36 PM
Apr 2019

figuring out this mess, and not worrying about the Easter bunny Weekend or one of MANY breaks Congress gets gratis on the American People? What is more important than tomorrow in American history as we know it? Just saying G. I would'nt assume the cohesion/un-breakablitiy of the country my friend. Even for 2 weeks.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
21. With 45 & Company at the wheel, a weekend is plenty of time to eradicate democracy.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:39 PM
Apr 2019

I kid, but I also worry. Very weird times.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
23. I'm not happy we all have to deal with this attack on American soil bigger than 9-11.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:49 PM
Apr 2019

Bothers me we arent fishing somewhere having a beer. My brain is hostage to this admin bc I love my country, not him. Reality tv and running America like little cheating corporations, are not entertaining. We've given enough.
We're all just speculating here and tensions are high.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
36. Oh, you don;t think that can happen ?
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:07 PM
Apr 2019

It's not a matter of over the weekend. It's been collapsing since November 2016.


 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
44. That's over the top hyperbole. A press conference 90 minutes before release threatens the republic?
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:05 AM
Apr 2019

It's a bullshit political stunt but the report still comes out either way; why does it matter?

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
47. Maybe. I submit that the news cycle changes quickly after 8pm.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:20 AM
Apr 2019

I reserve the right to be WORNG in a comment on an OP, if it's done in good faith, and based on a rolling news cycle.. I dont think the sentiment was wrong. Barr is going to spin his narrative. trump is going to follow up. It's dangerous on some level. I may have been verbose, but, I believe that tomorrow has been put off, and put off, for a reason. Tomorrow will determine a lot of things.
Maybe tomorrow is the final nail in a two and a half year coffin? Who knows? Neither do you respectfully. I think Congress has a role regardless of being in session, to promote the truth on tv to push back on the Barr report.. See Hakeem Jeffries and Cicilione and Deutch and Lieu (sorry for the spelling). This is the balliwick of congress. Im not a congressman and I dont have a tv plan. I see the news online AFTER the show usually. And I try to post them. Go easy. heh heh.

oldsoftie

(12,553 posts)
25. Every day is the last day on earth.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:52 PM
Apr 2019

I think the folks in Congress may have info the rest of us dont; including the talking heads. And maybe they have a plan that we just dont know about.

oldsoftie

(12,553 posts)
50. What power did they have before Jan? They didnt control the House.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:23 AM
Apr 2019

And, as Nancy Pelosi has said, going for impeachment right now would be foolish. Trump would remain in office & be able to use it as ammo for his reelection. To continually push for investigation after investigation just makes the average independent voter look at as sour grapes. Pelosi was around in the 90s and saw what happened to the GOP after the Clinton impeachment.

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
56. Maybe they do or maybe they don't.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:21 AM
Apr 2019

It's an opportunity to express indignant outrage concerning the perceived weakness of a high profile Democrat, so some folks are going to run with it.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
22. DH has been yelling this for weeks now.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:49 PM
Apr 2019

This is some gd game?!
Between the gd rethugians, the complicit press, Pelosi, and the lack of impeachment hearings and subpoenas, the country can be called dysfunctional.

Sorry. I'm fed up.

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
27. Spot on.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:00 PM
Apr 2019

“I’m deeply troubled” is on par with “thoughts and prayers” after a gun massacre. I’m so sick of the nansy pansy responses. It is long past time to put up or shut up and if you won’t - step the hell aside for somebody who will.

democrank

(11,095 posts)
28. This isn't the time to dig up excuses for why we can't do anything.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:01 PM
Apr 2019

Someone has to step out front with steely determination, poison-dart words, and a willingness to clearly state what this is....A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

We have a mob boss in the White House.

playaseeker

(59 posts)
34. Seem like the perfect storm..
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 10:37 PM
Apr 2019

...the most corrupt political party in the history of the Republic, lead by a corrupt and ignorant President while we labor with a milquetoast group of democrats that are afraid they might offend someone. God help us.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
42. Troubled and Concerned
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:35 PM
Apr 2019

In the same category as Thoughts and Prayers. Useless.

Time for decisive and quick action to restore faith in the rule of law. They've been telling us for 22 months they didn't want to do anything till the Mueller report came out. Even with redactions, I'm willing to bet there's enough ammo to go to war.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
48. "enough ammo to go to war."
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:12 AM
Apr 2019

Lordy, I hope so.

Questions for anyone reading:
Is there any law, ruling, or agreement that is keeping the Dems from subpoenaing the Mueller report now?
Must Pelosi or committee chairmans bring the weight of more official investigations to get the document? That's not the same as putting impeachment on the table.

And btw, how is it that Low Barr could get away with not answering questions during a hearing? He should have been found to be in contempt of Congress.


DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
49. Situation is very fluid right now
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:19 AM
Apr 2019

At first DoJ/Barr said there would only be 1 redacted report given to both Congress and the public. Now, it turns out there might be as many as 3 different versions including the publicly released redacted one.

Not long after Nadler spoke, DoJ/Barr said there will another copy that's still redacted, but less so, for Congress.

Then Maddow reported on her show that as part of a DoJ filing in Roger Stone's case, the part that concerns him will be redacted, but the filing also noted that an unredacted copy of Mueller's report will be made available to a limited number of Congressmen/women and their staffs in a secure reading room (can't make copies, take it home or back to one's office to read, etc).

To further complicate matters, Maddow also reported that DC Judge Reggie Walton who is handling media FOIA requests for the Mueller report says he can decide what is made public and what isn't under the FOIA law. Walton wants the full, unredacted report for his review and decision-making process.


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
52. He may be getting ready to go after barr
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:29 AM
Apr 2019

And have to get things lined up with Mueller's plan to attack them with. barr should be very nervous , justice is coming after him too now.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
54. I'm betting the report Barr "releases"
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:09 AM
Apr 2019

Is his own rewritten version that he’s “redacted” for show. The full report was probably shredded or is sitting in a White House or Trump & Co safe somewhere. Hope Mueller has a few copies stashed away and a few thumb drives of encrypted files.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
55. We all agree that this is going to end up in court, and it does nothing for our aims, to see Nadler
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:11 AM
Apr 2019

go "Full Nunes", allowing Trump to weasel his way out of this on a technicality, or that the public mood might change due to Dems fucking up.

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