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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTribe, minutes ago: Why on earth isn't Nadler issuing the subpoena NOW? What is he waiting for?
Tweeted by Laurence Tribe since Jerry Nadler's press conference this evening:
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Editing to add Tribe's response to a tweet from Nadler:
Nadler's tweet:
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Tribe's response to that, which he posted a couple of minutes ago:
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Chin music
(23,002 posts)And being mad shouldn't be confused w dissing D's. Time to roll Congress. You promised results. Get yourselves ready to spring.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,004 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)I'm w Tribe.
And P.S. Dem's...if you don't have an answer that's perfect for tomorrow, MAKE SOMETHING UP. That's what the gop does, and it works. (See M. Garland.) MAybe crack some books tonight in the Halls Of Congress, and figure something the hell out. We've waited...now it's game day.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)When will all Dems realize they are fucking us over.
certainot
(9,090 posts)right now the loudest protest in the country is on 1500 asshole radio stations with a few hundred lying limbaugh parroting jerks screaming to 50 mil people a week for 2 fucking years that this is a 'deep state' coup led by obama and hillary and soros.
how many democrats is the buzz from 1500 radio stations worth, attacking investigators and dem reps like schiff and nadler? limbaugh feeders will have 2.5 hours before the limbaugh show starts to manage the spin tomorrow. but if barr gave the report to the WH before this then limbaugh would be getting some of that too to help tailor the last 2 years of 'deep state' bullshit with the actual facts in the mueller report
i keep seeing dems calling for the dem reps to 'get a backbone' and that's one of those memes the russians love to troll. americans need to show up in the streets and those radio stations and the universities and pro sports teams that support those stations pretty soon instead of bellyaching about their reps whos' offices keep getting bombarded every time some lying fascist on the radio station threatens them
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)in a tweet earlier today.
George II
(67,782 posts)Nadler's committee can't issue a subpoena if none of them are in Washington. That's why Barr chose this time to release the report.
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)issue the subpoena
George II
(67,782 posts)It was being held until after the release of the report, which everyone agreed to at the time. I have no doubt that it will be issued shortly after Congress returns, which will be April 29.
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)wait till the 29th to react.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Shit, there may BE no US of A by then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck this shit.. This is a war against pure evil....
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)That dog dont hunt that Nadler can not issue the subpoena.
orangecrush
(19,570 posts)should have been called for this shit.
WTAF???
Polly Hennessey
(6,798 posts)Nadler puts out warm, fuzzy statements and sometimes those statements are accompanied by stern looks. Nadler subpoenas? Well, we can always hope 😳. Hope and hope and hope.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and dildo concerned tweety is another dipshit analyzing fish without water and totally ignorant of the right's best weapon like 95% of democrats who think talk radio is irrelevant, while they let it take free potshots at their reps all day
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...took this on with Nadler.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Sounds like Judge Walton is putting his foot down.
LiberalArkie
(15,716 posts)Like and Epstein or Kraft, who knows
certainot
(9,090 posts)a dem?
this is like what limbaugh says about famous republicans who get caught fucking cats or something - they're democrats
George II
(67,782 posts)....and that every Congressman is in their home district? That's why Barr chose this week to release the report.
How can Nadler issue a subpoena from his office in New York? C'mon folks.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)figuring out this mess, and not worrying about the Easter bunny Weekend or one of MANY breaks Congress gets gratis on the American People? What is more important than tomorrow in American history as we know it? Just saying G. I would'nt assume the cohesion/un-breakablitiy of the country my friend. Even for 2 weeks.
VOX
(22,976 posts)I kid, but I also worry. Very weird times.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Bothers me we arent fishing somewhere having a beer. My brain is hostage to this admin bc I love my country, not him. Reality tv and running America like little cheating corporations, are not entertaining. We've given enough.
We're all just speculating here and tensions are high.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It's not a matter of over the weekend. It's been collapsing since November 2016.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)It's a bullshit political stunt but the report still comes out either way; why does it matter?
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)I reserve the right to be WORNG in a comment on an OP, if it's done in good faith, and based on a rolling news cycle.. I dont think the sentiment was wrong. Barr is going to spin his narrative. trump is going to follow up. It's dangerous on some level. I may have been verbose, but, I believe that tomorrow has been put off, and put off, for a reason. Tomorrow will determine a lot of things.
Maybe tomorrow is the final nail in a two and a half year coffin? Who knows? Neither do you respectfully. I think Congress has a role regardless of being in session, to promote the truth on tv to push back on the Barr report.. See Hakeem Jeffries and Cicilione and Deutch and Lieu (sorry for the spelling). This is the balliwick of congress. Im not a congressman and I dont have a tv plan. I see the news online AFTER the show usually. And I try to post them. Go easy. heh heh.
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)Chin music
(23,002 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)oldsoftie
(12,553 posts)I think the folks in Congress may have info the rest of us dont; including the talking heads. And maybe they have a plan that we just dont know about.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)for like two years !!!!!!!!!!
oldsoftie
(12,553 posts)And, as Nancy Pelosi has said, going for impeachment right now would be foolish. Trump would remain in office & be able to use it as ammo for his reelection. To continually push for investigation after investigation just makes the average independent voter look at as sour grapes. Pelosi was around in the 90s and saw what happened to the GOP after the Clinton impeachment.
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)It's an opportunity to express indignant outrage concerning the perceived weakness of a high profile Democrat, so some folks are going to run with it.
dlk
(11,566 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)This is some gd game?!
Between the gd rethugians, the complicit press, Pelosi, and the lack of impeachment hearings and subpoenas, the country can be called dysfunctional.
Sorry. I'm fed up.
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)aquamarina
(1,865 posts)Im deeply troubled is on par with thoughts and prayers after a gun massacre. Im so sick of the nansy pansy responses. It is long past time to put up or shut up and if you wont - step the hell aside for somebody who will.
democrank
(11,095 posts)Someone has to step out front with steely determination, poison-dart words, and a willingness to clearly state what this is....A NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
We have a mob boss in the White House.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)Ligyron
(7,633 posts)She seems to have more balls than some members.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)playaseeker
(59 posts)...the most corrupt political party in the history of the Republic, lead by a corrupt and ignorant President while we labor with a milquetoast group of democrats that are afraid they might offend someone. God help us.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Bayard
(22,075 posts)In the same category as Thoughts and Prayers. Useless.
Time for decisive and quick action to restore faith in the rule of law. They've been telling us for 22 months they didn't want to do anything till the Mueller report came out. Even with redactions, I'm willing to bet there's enough ammo to go to war.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Lordy, I hope so.
Questions for anyone reading:
Is there any law, ruling, or agreement that is keeping the Dems from subpoenaing the Mueller report now?
Must Pelosi or committee chairmans bring the weight of more official investigations to get the document? That's not the same as putting impeachment on the table.
And btw, how is it that Low Barr could get away with not answering questions during a hearing? He should have been found to be in contempt of Congress.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)At first DoJ/Barr said there would only be 1 redacted report given to both Congress and the public. Now, it turns out there might be as many as 3 different versions including the publicly released redacted one.
Not long after Nadler spoke, DoJ/Barr said there will another copy that's still redacted, but less so, for Congress.
Then Maddow reported on her show that as part of a DoJ filing in Roger Stone's case, the part that concerns him will be redacted, but the filing also noted that an unredacted copy of Mueller's report will be made available to a limited number of Congressmen/women and their staffs in a secure reading room (can't make copies, take it home or back to one's office to read, etc).
To further complicate matters, Maddow also reported that DC Judge Reggie Walton who is handling media FOIA requests for the Mueller report says he can decide what is made public and what isn't under the FOIA law. Walton wants the full, unredacted report for his review and decision-making process.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)And have to get things lined up with Mueller's plan to attack them with. barr should be very nervous , justice is coming after him too now.
woodsprite
(11,916 posts)Is his own rewritten version that hes redacted for show. The full report was probably shredded or is sitting in a White House or Trump & Co safe somewhere. Hope Mueller has a few copies stashed away and a few thumb drives of encrypted files.
OnDoutside
(19,960 posts)go "Full Nunes", allowing Trump to weasel his way out of this on a technicality, or that the public mood might change due to Dems fucking up.