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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:55 AM Apr 2019

It's clear, The mueller report is a blue print for impeachment.

Congress must get the complete report and then put people under oath in open hearings. The report is telling us people lied , destroyed evidence that obstructed the investigation.

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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. We need to give it a few hours. Everyone is jumping to conclusions right now
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:01 PM
Apr 2019

Whether the truth of it is pro or against Trump and his ilk will be much clearer in a few hours. We should start by dismissing anything Barr said this morning to obfuscate the message.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. We need to give that time too.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:16 PM
Apr 2019

If you thought it would be released to everyone on the planet right away you weren’t being very realistic.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
3. Good advice. I do wonder why Barr, rump, and others ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:12 PM
Apr 2019

are scurrying around so much. There must be areas of great concern to them that when you combine all of this material with previously posted materials from Mueller's team for filing charges and gaining convictions on Flynn, etc.,

I don't think that they hid everything. There's too much already out there in public land (court proceedings etc.) and other documents that Mueller and/or his team has filed. Reconciling all of this back to the original 'Mueller' report might be done somewhat, but the original report must be may available to the full Congress. After all, isn't it Congress' duty to provide oversight of the Executive Branch of government?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. As soon as I heard there was going to be this early press conference
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:24 PM
Apr 2019

I knew it was their attempt to control the message. I’m not buying a single thing Barr said in this obvious move. They know Trump’s base will swallow it completely and then just ignore the inevitable fallout from the rest of us. This is the exact same thing they do all the time.

We don’t know much of the truth, but we should be quite aware of being lied to. They are lying to us.

This is far from over.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
6. You said it! This is far from being over, and if anything, they're lit the fires under all else ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:29 PM
Apr 2019

who may have harbored some doubt as to the extent of rump's and fellow cronies cooperation w/ the Russians in throwing an election. Now they literally have to be idiots to not accept the fact that rump and the Russians cooperated with each other to throw the results of an election. Plain and simple.

Take care.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
9. Really, you got that right. I'm going to putter around (it's raining outside), and stay away...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:41 PM
Apr 2019

from the news for a bit, let everything settle down for a bit. Take care!!

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
7. Not just a blueprint, a mandate
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 12:32 PM
Apr 2019

In the report (quoted directly on Daily Kos, can't find now), Meuller says (paraphrasing) "only Congress has the power to stop the corrupt actions of this president and uphold the rule of law"

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
10. Here's the quote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 01:22 PM
Apr 2019

But Mueller also concluded that Congress's proper function in this situation was to exercise its powers under our constitutional system of checks and balances to make sure that no person is above the law. "We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice," Mueller wrote.

Mueller also explained why this is constitutionally proper. “Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct by the President, such as suborning perjury, intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence, because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions."

If that is not a call to action for Congress, I don’t know what would be.

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