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Excellent (unrolled) Twitter thread about damning details in the Mueller report; (Original Post) tblue37 Apr 2019 OP
It's Daniel Dale!! Leghorn21 Apr 2019 #1
Reading through this it looks like to me Mueller did some whitewashing himself. triron Apr 2019 #2
Wow mercuryblues Apr 2019 #3
Again this looks like whitewash coming from Mueller. triron Apr 2019 #4
It is wishy-washy mercuryblues Apr 2019 #5
Witness Tampering. Maraya1969 Apr 2019 #6

triron

(22,003 posts)
2. Reading through this it looks like to me Mueller did some whitewashing himself.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 01:13 PM
Apr 2019

I am unable to understand his conclusion about conspiracy and cooperation.
Anyone else feel likewise?

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
3. Wow
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 01:16 PM
Apr 2019
..if we had confidence...that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment."


This is the 1st time I am seeing the preceding sentence. Which gives the quote Barr has been pushing the exact opposite meaning.

Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
5. It is wishy-washy
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 01:31 PM
Apr 2019
if we had confidence...that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment."


I am reading those 2 sentences as using legal standards

"I could not find evidence that trump did not commit obstruction of justice." IOW: I could find evidence that trump did commit obstruction. Mueller's team chose to write it up using double negatives.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
6. Witness Tampering.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 02:08 PM
Apr 2019


Mueller: After Flynn withdrew from his defense agreement with Trump, Trump's lawyer left Flynn's lawyer a voicemail demanding a "heads up" if Flynn was giving Mueller any info that "implicates the president," and asking Flynn to "remember" that Trump had warm feelings for him.



And I bet Manafort is kicking his ass for believing this shit from #45

Mueller: Manafort told Gates that Trump's personal lawyer told him that "we'll be taken care of," though the lawyer didn't specifically use the word pardon, and that it'd therefore be stupid to plead guilty.

And this:

Mueller: There doesn't need to be an underlying crime for there to be obstruction of justice. "The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong."
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