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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:11 PM Apr 2019

Nixon White House Lawyer John Dean: Mueller Report is 'More Damning' Than Watergate Report

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/nixon-white-house-lawyer-john-dean-mueller-report-is-more-damning-than-watergate-report/


Dean said that to gain some context, he looked at the Watergate report, the Iran Contra report, and Ken Starr‘s four-volume report on President Bill Clinton.

“I’ve read all of those,” Dean said. “This report from the special counsel is more damning than all of those reports about a president.”

“This is a really devastating report,” he added.

-snip-

“This is clear obstruction,” he said. “The obstruction statute is an endeavor statute, as well as actual overt action. If you endeavor to obstruct — and there is much evidence here of endeavor — you violated the obstruction statue.”

-snip-



Video at the link.
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Nixon White House Lawyer John Dean: Mueller Report is 'More Damning' Than Watergate Report (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2019 OP
Mueller says there were a number of Red Don's crew obstructing the investigation. Why aren't they in uponit7771 Apr 2019 #1
IOKIYAR rears its ugly head job. dchill Apr 2019 #19
Ted Lieu made the same point about endeavoring to obstruct: highplainsdem Apr 2019 #2
THIS !!!! ... and the legal bastards continue to miss this point uponit7771 Apr 2019 #22
I believe this to be true tymorial Apr 2019 #3
It's a simple fact loyalsister Apr 2019 #10
Just round up all the Republicans who voted to impeach and remove Clinton Major Nikon Apr 2019 #18
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2019 #4
oops.?.John Dean, does he know about "Watergate".ok, sarcasm ..John Dean??? (then look him up) Stuart G Apr 2019 #5
He's talking about it for just that reason. cwydro Apr 2019 #15
"Attempted" crimes get prosecuted everyday. Chin music Apr 2019 #6
In Nixon's case madamesilverspurs Apr 2019 #7
I don't think today's GOP has enough honorable members to play solitaire. tclambert Apr 2019 #8
THIS SunSeeker Apr 2019 #9
Good One! burrowowl Apr 2019 #20
Good One! maddiemom Apr 2019 #23
Well some of those same goopers are still doing the same now rockfordfile Apr 2019 #13
Does this mean obstruction isn't a thing theaocp Apr 2019 #11
Just so House Dems keep Trump tossing and turning all night long. oasis Apr 2019 #12
K&R burrowowl Apr 2019 #14
I was in high school during Watergate. Kath2 Apr 2019 #16
I despised Richard Nixon back then. maddiemom Apr 2019 #24
K&R Niagara Apr 2019 #17
"Oh my God. This is terrible." moondust Apr 2019 #21
For Sure colsohlibgal Apr 2019 #25
I read some of the comments Marthe48 Apr 2019 #26
Nonsense. Watergate had 100s of hours of tapes of Nixon. Nothing close to that with trump. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #27

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
1. Mueller says there were a number of Red Don's crew obstructing the investigation. Why aren't they in
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:12 PM
Apr 2019

... jail.

This isn't about blow jobs

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
3. I believe this to be true
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:24 PM
Apr 2019

Sadly we also have a less honorable Congress. I do believe there are Democrats that would vote to impeach and convict. I believe there may even be some Republicans that would vote the same but the gross majority of Republicans and some Democrats would not.

The fact that I included Democrats in that equation will probably get this flag but I do believe it's true.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. It's a simple fact
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:52 PM
Apr 2019

There are Democratic Congress members in red states. They would likely be in a no win situation. A yea vote would kick fundraising into overdrive while mobilizing republicans and a no vote would alienate Democrats. Then there could be a mixed bag of indepedent voters.
It's a lot more complicated than we realize for them to figure out where to land. When they take their responsibilities seriously it's not very common to have easy answers and obvious solutions.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
18. Just round up all the Republicans who voted to impeach and remove Clinton
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:50 PM
Apr 2019

Bill Clinton was never so much as indicted for anything, so there were exactly zero underlying charges. The charges of impeachment listed obstruction of justice.

Keep in mind also the matter in question was a deposition Clinton gave for a civil matter than never involved any violation of criminal law to begin with unlike the criminal conspiracy much of Trump's inner circle has already been charged and/or convicted.

All of these people should be a reliable vote against Trump, assuming they aren't fucking hypocrites which is probably a poor assumption.

Stuart G

(38,428 posts)
5. oops.?.John Dean, does he know about "Watergate".ok, sarcasm ..John Dean??? (then look him up)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:29 PM
Apr 2019

He says he has...read all of these..."really devastating" he said.. He would know!!!!!

Yes, there are some here who do not know who John Dean is in relation to Watergate...(some young ones.)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. He's talking about it for just that reason.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 10:43 PM
Apr 2019

He thinks the report shows that this administration is as bad, or worse, than Nixon’s.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
6. "Attempted" crimes get prosecuted everyday.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:31 PM
Apr 2019

Or at least people plea down to them. No biggie w trump though. He's special.

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
7. In Nixon's case
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 08:34 PM
Apr 2019

it was congressional members of his own party who let him know the game was over. Today's GOP doesn't have enough honorable members to field a bowling team.


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maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
24. I despised Richard Nixon back then.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019

BUT...Nixon longed to be remembered as a great man, a great statesman. His goal was not to line his pockets with every cent he could possibly glean. He resented his enemies (even had a list of them), but his major agenda was not to destroy them as a major priority (it WOULD be great to screw them up, but he had higher ambitions in mind). Nixon's kids had a genuine loyalty to him. Trump's kids seem to have taken every advantage possible and really suck up to him. Hate Nixon as you might, he did achieve some successes (can you believe the E.P.A.?, let alone China). Neither Nixon nor Trump were honest men, but Trump is completely lost in his own ego. He already thinks himself a great man, and hopes to exploit it in every way he can.

moondust

(19,987 posts)
21. "Oh my God. This is terrible."
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:54 PM
Apr 2019

"This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."

Screams CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT. In neon lights. With sirens wailing.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
25. For Sure
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 05:19 PM
Apr 2019

Nixon was a bitter man, a bigot, a racist, he ordered a theft....all clear from the tapes he fought to keep out of public view. But he largely maintained acceptable behavior in public. He was book smart.

This Richie Rich Jerk we suffer now is infinitely worse and spews his venom out in public and in texts. He is mean spirited and operates like a foul mouthed mafia boss. He is a terrible President and a terrible human being, and is dumb.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
27. Nonsense. Watergate had 100s of hours of tapes of Nixon. Nothing close to that with trump.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:52 PM
Apr 2019

People are really losing their minds and i'm afraid its gonna blow back. He's NOT getting put out of office.
Just plan on working hard as possible to WIN IN '20.

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