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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Our fight is with trump and GOPers. Russia did what we have done
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:14 PM
Apr 2019

many times.

We should have blocked their efforts, but failed. Next time we need to be ready to counter their —Russian, GOPer, etc. — lies and hacking. We did it in 2018, and can do it in 2020.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)
4. It's illegal here to do what "we have done many times" and it's not a reasoning for accepting ...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019

... Putin's actions.

Obama did try to block their actions and he took action, it's a RWTP that we did nothing ... that's not true.

How in the hell are we going to be ready next time when Putin's whore is still in office !?!?

Russia's just going to sit 2020 out!?

Let the chips fall where they may?!

I'm not seeing the logic in letting Putin's Whore stay in office knowing Russia helped him get there in 2016.

what say you?

tia

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. So you think we haven't interfered in elections in other countries? We are going to be ready by
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:44 PM
Apr 2019

countering lies. We won in 2018 and in special elections after 2016. We got out the vote and we countered lies, something we didn't do in 2016. And, Democrats need to make sure they don't let Presidential candidates who lose in primaries influence their supporters to vote against Democratic nominee.

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)
13. Of course we have, I'm thinking of interfering in Russia's elections as soon as I can ....
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:54 PM
Apr 2019

... by posting some broken Russian on Russian sites.

That doesn't mean accept what Russia did by helping Red Don here, it's illegal here what the Trump campaign did and at best Russia went to far in installing Putin's whore.

We got out the vote and we countered lies, something we didn't do in 2016


Those were state level elections where republican cheating allowed them to keep the senate in GA and FL.

I don't think 18 is a good example of "not cheating" seeing we don't control the senate due to KGOP cheating.


Look, I'm thinking dem numbers will overwhelm any kind of digital micro-purging or any other targeting Red Don's campaign can do next year but I would like to ... NOT ... take a chance with their guy in office if we can help it.

That doesn't make any sense to leave Putin's whore where he can do the most damage.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. My point is that Russia isn't where we should direct our anger. It's trump, his ignorant supporters,
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:59 PM
Apr 2019

Democrats who abandon the party for hurt feelings, etc., that we need to be concerned about.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
9. Maybe they just weren't that into 2018
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:41 PM
Apr 2019

I don't think we stopped them at all.

None of are current candidates for prez are addressing the Russian threat.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
12. To counter candidates have to speak about them
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:54 PM
Apr 2019

I wonder wo will be first its a strong and factual message?

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. I agree. Time to take their assets.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019

We need the Whitehouse, then play Brutal-Ball with Russia.
Get more troops into the Balkans, ships on their Pacific Coast.
The CIA needs to hack and shutdown their power grid.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
5. Start by blocking the aluminum factory being built in Kentucky --
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:30 PM
Apr 2019

....send a strong message to McConnell and Rand Paul. Dry up their Russian money.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. An EXCELLENT start!!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 09:40 PM
Apr 2019

Apply the MAGNITSKY ACT in Kentucky and the rest of the US, and Putin will fuckin VAPORIZE

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