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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid the writers of our Constitution ever envision anything like we are now experiencing with Trump?
...and his Republican accessories?
Did they ever think that a President would be so disrespectful of our laws and would challenge the Legislature the way that Trump is now doing?
Although Washington warned against political Parties, did he ever think it would reach a point where the nation would be divided along Party lines, with little hope for compromise?
Did they ever think that this division would put our national security at risk?
Did they ever mean for a President to have so much power, after fighting the revolution to overthrow a King?
Did they offer any solutions, when impeachment is considered an impotent gesture, when one political Party is frozen in partisanship and inaction, thereby creating an environment where the other political Party is so powerless, as in the present situation?
Do we need to add Amendments to our Constitution to prevent something like this from happening in the future, in the optimistic circumstance that there is a future for our present form of government?
What would be their solution?
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)our brances of government are not equal. SC is the most powerful branch with final decision on things. It is now politicized. Functional SC would be able to protect the country properly.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)But they didn't envision a major party that enabled, supported and protected him.
That so many would be willing to discard all sense of responsibility and allow the foundations of our country and culture to be brazenly Destroyed was not something they considered.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)But what they didnt expect was a situation like the House or Senate completely bowing to him and refusing to serve as a proper check.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)A clearly unfit, con man, demagogue should never have been given votes by the electoral college.
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations. It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.
Hamilton and the other Founders saw the danger of this and expected the college to do their job. They did not.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)That they thought the Electoral College would be more capable and qualified to prevent a demagogue from attaining office? When it seems to be the exact opposite?
Perhaps it is time to rid ourselves of the Electoral College?
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... but I can't find it anywhere now. It showed the founders of our country hovering over the Constitution, and one of them saying something like, " maybe we should put something in there in case 'the people' elect a moron." It was published during Bush's term, but it's more than appropriate today.
unblock
(52,227 posts)hence the separation of powers, hence the checks and balances.
right-wingers have corrupted all of our protections, including the media.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Then they never would do it again!
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)They envisioned living with bad things and also not living with them through checks and balances.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)They absolutely knew that this experiment could end in failure.
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."
- Thomas Jefferson
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
-George Washington
It was on the people of this country to be watchful and vigilant. We collectively as a country have been asleep at the switch for decades now as this slow creep has happened.