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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:14 AM Apr 2019

Now I know why I was suspicious about Rosenstein

Rosenstein Lashes Out at Obama and the Media, Defends Trump in First Remarks Since Mueller Report
In his first public address since the release of Robert Mueller’s report, the deputy attorney general warned that Russia is just getting started with its meddling.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rosenstein-lashes-out-at-obama-and-the-media-defends-trump-in-first-remarks-since-mueller-report?ref=scroll

Speaking publicly for the first time since the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential elections, Assistant Attorney General Rob Rosenstein did not mince words.

In a prepared speech delivered to the Public Servants Dinner of the Armenian Bar Association, Rosenstein criticized the Obama administration for failing to act on what he says should have been a “real-time reaction to Russian hacking.”

“The previous Administration chose not to publicize the full story about Russian computer hackers and social media trolls, and how they relate to a broader strategy to undermine America,” he said.

<<snip>>

He only mentioned Trump once in the talk, praising the president’s approach to the law. “The rule of law is our most important principle,” Rosenstein said. “As President Trump pointed out, ‘We govern ourselves in accordance with the rule of law rather [than] … the whims of an elite few or the dictates of collective will.’”

Rosenstein warned that the Russian meddling outlined in the Mueller report was just the beginning.

“The bottom line is, there was overwhelming evidence that Russian operatives hacked American computers and defrauded American citizens,” he said, according to the official transcript of the speech. “And that is only the tip of the iceberg of a comprehensive Russian strategy to influence elections, promote social discord, and undermine America, just like they do in many other countries.”

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Now I know why I was suspicious about Rosenstein (Original Post) dajoki Apr 2019 OP
His ass kissing to Trump is disgusting. dalton99a Apr 2019 #1
rosenstein wrote that letter justifying firing comey. Merlot Apr 2019 #2
IMO, that's why he... zaj Apr 2019 #6
And IMO ScratchCat Apr 2019 #21
"They threatened him with "The McCabe Treatment"" mitch96 Apr 2019 #27
I believe what Mr. Rosenstein meant to say was....... Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #3
The basic problem with Rosenstein: JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #4
Yes we can see that now FakeNoose Apr 2019 #19
All Those Who Made All Sorts Of Excuses For Him Me. Apr 2019 #5
Not exactly. zaj Apr 2019 #7
Did He? Me. Apr 2019 #8
Barr might have protected Mueller zaj Apr 2019 #10
Sorry Barr Has Not Protected Mueller Me. Apr 2019 #18
I'm all in with you on that. triron Apr 2019 #32
THAT is what is most disappointing about ... Whiskeytide Apr 2019 #33
By protecting Mueller, he protected trumpft. Merlot Apr 2019 #9
McGhan protected Mueller Solomon Apr 2019 #40
Did he mention the turtle? n/t malaise Apr 2019 #11
Nancy Pelosi: dajoki Apr 2019 #13
Precisely malaise Apr 2019 #15
Thank you! Mme. Defarge Apr 2019 #23
They will blame trump's lawlessness on Democrats too if we fail to impeach trump spanone Apr 2019 #14
That is their plan malaise Apr 2019 #16
Wonder what Comey, McCabe etc. think about Rosenstein now. blueinredohio Apr 2019 #12
Having serious trouble following Rosenstein's logic. Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #17
He's hanging on for his pension FakeNoose Apr 2019 #22
Rosenstein more concerned with career than the country. delisen Apr 2019 #29
Very true. Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #31
Just like the excuses the German concentration camp guards gave luvtheGWN Apr 2019 #35
That's because Rosenstein's remarks were 100% political spin in service to Hair Twitler Martin Eden Apr 2019 #39
Fuck you, Rosenstein. Enjoy trump's Inverse Midas Touch. Paladin Apr 2019 #20
Why didn't he call out the GOP House and Senate. McConnell warned Obama not to publicize the info sarabelle Apr 2019 #24
Ok, but no mention that his DHS was told to NOT even bring up the fucking subject? Is this a joke? themaguffin Apr 2019 #25
One of the talking heads on MSNBC said that the problem with Rosenstein The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #26
I agree completely with this assessment. MBS Apr 2019 #34
Yeah, I think he knows what would have been the right thing to do, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #36
I just don't understand how people like this can sleep at night. n/t MBS Apr 2019 #37
Maybe they don't. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #42
Auto correct? enid602 Apr 2019 #28
It he had to do it all over again, I think Obama would Drahthaardogs Apr 2019 #30
WTF?!! He's despicable. Duppers Apr 2019 #38
Career weasel GeorgeGist Apr 2019 #41
Preet Bharrara made some very astute, if not cutting, comments on Rosenstein, listen here OnDoutside Apr 2019 #43
The committees should call Obama to testify elias7 Apr 2019 #44
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
6. IMO, that's why he...
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
Apr 2019

... protected Mueller and Barr/Trump/himself.

He knew he was complicit in the one crime they could prove, and indicting that crime.would open him up to participating.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
21. And IMO
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:05 AM
Apr 2019

They used that to "blackmail" him into what you are seeing now. They threatened him with "The McCabe Treatment" if he didn't defend Barr and Trump. Probably went as far to say that if obstruction charges were brought against Trump, they would have to include him as well. Just look at his face at that press conference(And the other guy was priceless too, clearly knowing Barr was lying), he was a robot, knowing Barr was full of shit but being forced to stand there like the entire department agreed with Barr.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
27. "They threatened him with "The McCabe Treatment""
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:54 AM
Apr 2019

It will be interesting to hear what he says after he retires from the Justice Dept... Book?
m

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
3. I believe what Mr. Rosenstein meant to say was.......
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:21 AM
Apr 2019

“We govern ourselves in accordance with the DISTORTION of law.....”.

I guess it was an easy mistake.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
4. The basic problem with Rosenstein:
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:22 AM
Apr 2019

He is weak.

So says an MSNBC legal analyst (wish I could remember which one).

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
19. Yes we can see that now
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:58 AM
Apr 2019

Mueller expected more support from Rosenstein, that's for sure. I look at my old DU posts from last year, and I was sort of rooting for him. Not any more! I believe he got very scared when Jeff Sessions resigned (or was fired) and Rosenstein finally realized he would never be promoted to AG. Something put the fear of God in him, like he would be the next one to get thrown under a bus.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
18. Sorry Barr Has Not Protected Mueller
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:54 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:39 PM - Edit history (1)

and as far as I'm concerned that was Rosenstein standing right behind him. And to blame the Obama admin for what McConnell did is abominable

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
33. THAT is what is most disappointing about ...
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

... his comments. We all know McConnell hampered Obama's response with threats that he would paint it as partisan efforts by Obama to elect Clinton. Rosenstein knows that as well. He could have said that Obama bowed to political pressure from republicans to keep it under the radar and that would have been critical of Obama and still relatively truthful. Instead, what he said was simply a conscious distortion of the true facts.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
9. By protecting Mueller, he protected trumpft.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:31 AM
Apr 2019

trumpft firing Mueller would have unleashed a fireststorm. No republicans wanted trumpft to fire Mueller.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
17. Having serious trouble following Rosenstein's logic.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:53 AM
Apr 2019

How can he criticize Obama, but give Trump a free pass? And, IF there was such overwhelming evidence that Russian operatives hacked American computers and defrauded American citizen, isn't Mitch McConnell more to blame than Obama, since he obstructed a joint effort to combat the problem?

I am really concerned that our important organizations, like the Attorney General's Office are stocked with very stupid people...or they don't have any regard for us at all.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
22. He's hanging on for his pension
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:06 AM
Apr 2019

Remember what Chump did to Andrew McCabe? He fired him one day before he could retire and get his full pension. For spite, Chump screwed him by one day. Does anyone think he wouldn't do that to Rosenstein or anyone else? I have no doubt Chump would do it, because that's the kind of person he is.

I'm sure Rod is counting the days till he's out of there. I hope he writes a tell-all book and exposes Chump's nastiness and criminal behavior.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
29. Rosenstein more concerned with career than the country.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:10 PM
Apr 2019

He had seemed quite angry about the letter he implied he had been tricked into writing in which he criticized Comey. Possibly his anger was triggered by it becoming public and damaging his reputation.

I wonder whether we will ever know why so many people have chosen the low road.

I do know, having worked in a very large organization that was doing what can only be described as evil, that shocking numbers of people will betray their principles and fall in line, and choose complicity.

I believe this is what Hannah Arendt called the banality of evil.

I am only following orders
I am just a guard
I am just an electrician; I am just a carpenter; I am just a chemist;
I don't kill people, I just supply gas.
I just build cages....
I need to support my family
I do not like what I do, but I have no choice.
If I don't do this, I will lose my job or I won't get promoted.

.. and it is true that the price of a personal code of ethics can be high.

when does one lean-in; when does one resist; when does one risk oneself or others...

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
35. Just like the excuses the German concentration camp guards gave
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:11 PM
Apr 2019

after WW11. The banality of evil, indeed.

Martin Eden

(12,867 posts)
39. That's because Rosenstein's remarks were 100% political spin in service to Hair Twitler
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:22 PM
Apr 2019

One cannot logically defend a POtuS who has consistently denied the assessment of our intelligence agencies in this matter, and who has steadfastly refused to do anything to safeguard our next election against further attacks.

Referring to Trump as a champion of the rule of law is so far beyond the pale that it strips Rosenstein of whatever credibility he may have once had.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
20. Fuck you, Rosenstein. Enjoy trump's Inverse Midas Touch.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:03 AM
Apr 2019

Like he has with practically everybody else who's worked on his behalf, trump has robbed you of whatever good reputation you ever had, and turned you into a big piece of shit. Kindly disappear.

 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
24. Why didn't he call out the GOP House and Senate. McConnell warned Obama not to publicize the info
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:35 AM
Apr 2019

And McConnell said voters would think he was just trying to help Hillary. Plus mcConnell ignored Wright when he asked McConnell to take some action on the intel.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
25. Ok, but no mention that his DHS was told to NOT even bring up the fucking subject? Is this a joke?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:42 AM
Apr 2019

What the fuck.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
26. One of the talking heads on MSNBC said that the problem with Rosenstein
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:49 AM
Apr 2019

is that he's weak. I think that assessment is accurate.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
36. Yeah, I think he knows what would have been the right thing to do,
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:14 PM
Apr 2019

but he just didn't have the cojones to do it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
42. Maybe they don't.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:49 PM
Apr 2019

Rosenstein was often described as a straight shooter who followed the law, and he probably was until he got browbeaten into going along with Trump's bullshit, and later Barr's bullshit, by domineering people with stronger personalities - until he folded like a cheap lawn chair. He probably knows he didn't do the right thing and that he doesn't have the guts to do otherwise. Maybe he doesn't sleep well, knowing what a weenie he is.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
28. Auto correct?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:00 PM
Apr 2019

Why would Rosenstein address ‘the Armenian Bar Association?’ Was he in Little Armenia?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
30. It he had to do it all over again, I think Obama would
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019

Have told Mitch to screw himself and would have broadcast the Russia issues. However, I think even Obama didn't believe Trump could really win.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
43. Preet Bharrara made some very astute, if not cutting, comments on Rosenstein, listen here
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:46 PM
Apr 2019
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stay-tuned-with-preet/e/60264577?autoplay=true

From the 7 minutes 3 seconds mark.

He said Rosenstein has been described by Jim Comey as a "Survivor" and he didn't mean it as a compliment. He's quite a mixed bag.
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