Peggy Noonan---Hell has frozen over:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[Stuart G]

1. He is not the first, and won't be the last..nt.

[DownriverDem]

16. Make that

"She"

[erronis]

21. I guess I was taking that "he will not be the first" to refer to the dump-hole peeResident

There have been quite a few other repuglicon a-holes before and will likely be some more. Not to say that the dems are without fault, but in comparison they pale to the the abysmal depths to which the repugs can descent.

[deminks]

2. Nooner! nt

[lunatica]

60. Neener neener!

[elleng]

3. 'saying he was given a chance to act like a president, failed

and now it is time for him to go.

According to the former presidential speechwriter, Trump has been nothing but a “disruptive” force since he came to Washington D.C. after his surprise election.'

[Doitnow]

31. --more like "destuctive," I'd say.

[SuprstitionAintthWay]

78. and he WASN'T ELECTED, he was ELECTORALCOLLEGED... a better verb we need so I coined

to accurately convey how Soviet Agent Orange reached office. I'm as sick of the "Trump was elected" by American voters bullshit as I am the "Mueller proved Trump didn't conspire with Russia" bullshit. Neither of those things happened.

The American voters elected Hillary Rodham Clinton and correctly rejected Donald J. Trump.

538 individuals hand-picked for their extreme and reliable partisanship by state-level political parties, the outrageously undemocratic Electoral College, chose to put him in office.

WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE sure as fuck didn't elect him. We very unambiguously REJECTED him.

He was ELECTORALCOLLEGED into office by a group of just 538 very partisan people assigned a temporary, specialized, frankly bizarre task.

Please describe that particular shit that happened thusly.

[Rhiannon12866]

79. Well said, thank you!

It also drives me nutz when the pundits inaccurately say that Trump was "elected." He was not the choice of the American people!

[kentuck]

4. Democrats should use this to their political advantage at every opportunity....

Peggy Noonan, longtime conservative and speechwriter for President Reagan, said it is time for Trump to go. He had his chance and he blew it.

[DownriverDem]

18. I'm curious

When you say"Democrats should", do you tell them? You should.

[Downtown Hound]

5. Well, we need all the help we can get so, welcome! And...

don't trust her one bit.

[struggle4progress]

10. +!

[underpants]

6. NnnnnnooNAN

[vlyons]

7. looks like gradually, some establishment Republicans are losing their fear and trepidation

about calling for Trump to go. just wait for McGann to testify and for Congress to get his tax returns. He is such an embarrassment. A moral degenerate.

[elleng]

8. Yes

[corbettkroehler]

75. Let's Hope This New Confidence Will Cause Subpoena Compliance

Ms. Noonan is not under subpoena but I hope her overt statement spills over to those current and former members of the tRump administration who are and cause them to fulfill their patriotic and legal duty, testify or go to jail.

We'll see.

[Quemado]

9. Dear Peggy Noonan: What took you so long?

nt

[FakeNoose]

11. She keeps hoping some other RWNJ will do it first

[11 Bravo]

13. 50 years of Drambuie and Xanax cocktails ...

take a while to wear off.

[Evolve Dammit]

26. good one. still laughing

[Blue_true]

42. I can generally tell a rum hound when I see one.

Most of the people that I peg are men, simply because there are more of them. But Peggy looks like a person that likes her cocktails on the strong side and often.

[shadowmayor]

55. Looks like

Ol' Peg cut mimosas out of her breakfast menu.

[corbettkroehler]

76. Thanks For Evoking A Chortle!

It's not easy to cause me to laugh all the way from the depths of my diaphragm these days. I'm grateful.

[DownriverDem]

19. Well

she has attacked trump all along on MSNBC.

[hibbing]

12. What's his approval rating among members of the party? n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

65. Is That Relevant?

That crowd voted for PINO simply because an R followed the name.
I'm more interested, and hopeful, that independents show high disapproval in around 18 months.

[Honeycombe8]

14. Wow. Hell HAS frozen over. This is a one-time deal, folks.

It won't happen again. They desperately want Trump out of office, like we do.

This is a golden opportunity. Let's make sure our candidate CAN realistically beat Trump. The debates should reveal that (I hope).

The candidates who are really in the running are:
Biden
Buttegieg
Harris
O'Rourke
Sanders
Warren

I think the others aren't gaining any traction, so aren't real contenders at this point.

[DownriverDem]

20. Good Point

Biden/Harris would be an excellent ticket. trump is afraid of Biden.

[cwydro]

32. And wouldn't it be a hoot to watch Warren

take on Pence in a debate?

[IronLionZion]

59. Pence would need his wife to be present

or use it as an excuse to avoid a debate

[infinite_wisdom]

22. His approval is still very high amongst R's...

..but the percentage of people identifying as Republican has been falling. It’s down to about 26%.

[Honeycombe8]

48. Really? I hadn't heard that. Sweet. :) nt

[llmart]

27. Serious question here.

Is Bernie Sanders a Democrat?

[rebe303]

43. No

Disruptive opportunist. (Independent)

[llmart]

46. Ok. Thanks for the answer.

I thought maybe I'd missed something along the way such as him becoming a Democrat.

Why are we even considering him at this point, especially on DU? I haven't gone on the Primaries part of DU and don't intend to, but I have read that he's listed on there as one of the candidates. Personally, I don't think he should be included on DU as a candidate. But that's just me.

[Honeycombe8]

49. He has self-identified as an Independent or Socialist for most of his career.

Except for the 2016 Presidential election, and now.

I'm puzzled as to why the Dem Party allows him to run under its powerful moniker.

[phylny]

64. Probably because if he ran for president alongside of a Republican and Democratic

candidate, he'd effectively split the vote and a Republican would win.

[localroger]

66. Not Socialist, Democratic Socialist which is a different thing

Also he has caucused with the Democrats for his entire term in the Senate. Not directly identifying with them is mainly a way to apply some pressure to some aspects of the Democratic platform that he doesn't like, since he has been managing to get elected without having to align himself with the whole thing.

[NBachers]

15. I will hold my snark, and grudgingly applaud her statement.

[struggle4progress]

17. Is Peggy going after all the GOP folk who enable Trump, too, or is this just her latest effort

at briefly pretending once again to be a centrist?

[Aristus]

23. It's not that Trump is making them look bad.

It's that he's revealing the way they've always been...

[2naSalit]

25. +1

[yortsed snacilbuper]

24. I thought P N passed away,

darn!

[rurallib]

28. and to think - she was probably going to be nominated to be acting secretary

of something or another. maybe get a chance to deport somebody's parents or lock some kids in jail.
Ya blew it Peggy.

[llmart]

29. Oh, big deal.

We're supposed to get excited about her proclamation? She'll be voting for Republicans down the line, so her castigating Trump means nothing. When she gets around to tying the GOP establishment to Trump, since they are the ones enabling him, then let me know and I'll consider her seriously.

[Honeycombe8]

50. Well, it's a sign that establishment Republicans may vote against Trump. That's a big deal.

It could make up for the Russian votes.

[llmart]

56. Maybe. But I won't be holding my breath.

[Honeycombe8]

61. You don't have to. Some will. And we'll take them. It's a good thing to appeal to all voters...

They don't have the same ideology. But for the time being, we are all united in voting Trump out of office.

[Metro135]

30. According to Peggy . . .

"Democrats would be wise to spend the next year showing America that their party is capable of governing, up to leadership, that its ideas are not crazy but pertinent, that it actually has a philosophy."

They actually did that, Peg, from 2008-2016. The Republican philosophy is: cut social spending, grow the debt, give corporations and billionaires bigger and bigger tax cuts, deny science, and deregulate everything. Let's drill for oil in the Grand Canyon!

Where the hell have you been the past decade? Make that three decades.

[pangaia]

39. They have done that at least as long as I have been alive-

which is since 1943, and FDR at least before that..

So what's that garbage spewing from her foul mouth?

[Honeycombe8]

51. I think she's talking about the couple of new Democrats, or Dem-Socialists...

who have said some things that middle America may think are out of the mainstream and not about governing the country realistically.

[calimary]

33. Well well well. Stinks up the joint too badly even for you, Peggy Noonan.

I used to think of her as such a shameless apologist for Ronald Reagan that I came to regard her as “Ronnie’s Monica” (without the sexy parts). She did everything but slobber all over him.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

34. Her calling for Dems to beat Trump at the ballot box instead of impeaching him is

Noonan just being her usual full of shit self. Tell it to Trump enabler Putin and vote-suppressor McConnell, you fucking hypocrite Noonan.

[Pepsidog]

35. Shut the F*ck up Peggy. Go away. Still it's not enough to impeach? You tired old hag.

[MrScorpio]

36. Wow, when you lose ol' Peggy Noonan, you lose Reagan's cult.

This is a day to remember.

[jcgoldie]

37. Fuck Peggy Noonan

She's been twisting Trump's shit into "both sides" balogna for 3 years.

[LakeArenal]

68. Your post caught my eye.

Couldn’t agree more.

More Steve Schmidt than Nicole Wallace.

[former9thward]

38. I have read her columns for years.

She was an original never Trumper. This is not new.

[jcgoldie]

41. Like a lot of the so called "never Trumpers"

...including Hugh Hewitt, Noonan has been carrying Trump's water on Meet the Press ever since he's been in office. This is not about criticizing Trump, its about criticizing Democrats for attacking Trump.

[Laelth]

63. Almost certainly. n/t

-Laelth

[Honeycombe8]

52. She thought Palin was a wackadoodle. Remember that? She was caught by ...

She was caught by the microphone that hadn't been turned off during a commercial break, saying such things about Palin.

[3catwoman3]

40. It is supposed to snow in the greater Chicago...

...area tomorrow. Maybe Hell IS freezing over.

[warmfeet]

44. To hell with Noonan and her ilk.

Defending crap for all these years, now says some crap is bad.

[Honeycombe8]

53. We need the votes. Pragmatism. nt

[patphil]

45. Thick enough to skate on.

And she's no Peggy Fleming.

[stopbush]

47. She's such a smug idiot.

[YOHABLO]

54. She's milked that Reagan speech writing position for all she can. Reagan's gone bye bye Peggy.

But I am glad she's speaking out to who ever she thinks her audience is.

[empedocles]

57. Another harbinger

[Buzz cook]

58. I guess the magic dolphins have spoken. nt

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[C Moon]

62. Yeah right. GOPutin people are liars and pros at sleight of hand. Look at those empty eyes.

[themaguffin]

67. Fuck her. Remember how she called President Obama "Mr Obama?" Fuck her. Fuck her.

Fuck her.

[Hulk]

69. His cult couldn't care less what Noonan has to say...

These lost repuKKKes make me laugh. Kristol, Noonan, Brooks, etc have watched their ignorant party of selfish, self-centered heathens eat the remnants of the gop, and they are totally on an island surrounded by sewage.

Can't stand this whiny wench, and anything she has to say, after creating this fucking nightmare with their lies and fear mongering, is worthless barking at the moon.

[DinahMoeHum]

70. Hey, Noonan. STFU and go BJ Ronnie Reagan's ghost.

[extvbroadcaster]

71. She's right about one thing

Everybody in Washington hates him. I do believe her that there was a "fantasy" period where people thought he would realize the gravity of the job and grow into it. Nope. Trump has done absolutely nothing but be Trump. That means being a low life grifter who is lazy to boot. Of course there are sycophants that are kissing up to Trump because he is President. Once he is out of office, they won't accept his calls. I doubt he has a friend in Washington. That is why I don't think it would be that hard to impeach him. But that is for another thread.

[JHan]

72. err Peggy you helped created this hell.

Maybe talk about how your party has failed America for decades.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

73. Oh, that idiot. At least this time it's in print and can't use the

"hot mic" excuse like when she had her one honest moment back in '08.

[PatrickforO]

74. Interesting.

This tweet is on a feed from Cheri Jacobus, who is another GOP strategist.

There was an interesting comment on the thread that the new Republican talking point is that Democrats should NOT impeach Trump now because that just means 'they can't win at the ballot box.'

Think about that for a minute. Quite the spin - damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I just watched Friday's Bill Maher, too, and on new rules, he had a brilliant soliloquy about Robert Mueller. And you know, he's right. Maxine Waters is right. The others calling for impeachment are right. Mueller dropped the ball on a technicality, but we cannot.

No one has a working crystal ball, but my own opinion is that if we do not add the authority of impeachment to the investigations of the Trump corruption that are currently going on, we will be perceived as spineless. Afraid. Politic instead of biting the bullet and doing what is necessary.

Trump is a cancer on this country, and we've got to educate people about how disgusting he actually is. Impeachment hearings ARE that vehicle. THEN we will win at the ballot box.

[mr_lebowski]

77. Here, let me write IQ45's twitter reply (you know, as President of the USA)

"Remember Noonen caught on Mike, very jealous of Palin's Great Looks! Also she used to beg me to date her in the 1980's. I said NO CHANCE! Clear that she hated all men, and was a 4 on the Best of Days! Looks like she has never let it go, still SO ANGRY! SAD!"

[SuprstitionAintthWay]

80. Good capturing there of both tone and "substance" (ha... little joke).

One small note, when the begging delusion periodically bubbles forth out of his bilious little mind and into view unfortunately he tends to reflexively share the detail he has in his head, that said defeated, abject people willing to do anything for his approval are down on their knees in front of him. Especially the women.

One of the skin-crawling-est things he says... out so, so many.

[mr_lebowski]

81. Good point ... I missed that vibe ... next time I'll include ;) (nt)