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Need I say it, but Trump can go to hell. He can shove that Robert E. Lee Statue up his posterior and ask all of his Nazi friends for help to remove it.
But there is a place where people can go for a fitting tribute to the treasonous bastard. It sits high on a hilltop in one of our most sacred public spaces. There in the Arlington Cemetery, sits the old family home surrounded by the dead that perished by his treachery.
When the South seceded, Lee left his home, resigned from the Union Army and took his place with the traitors. The Union took over the property and eventually turned it into a graveyard for the war dead.
So if "historians" want to remember Robert E. Lee, let them do it at Arlington Cemetery where the true nature of his deeds can be witnessed first hand.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-arlington-national-cemetery-came-to-be-145147007/
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)hlthe2b
(102,276 posts)https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments
But Lee himself never wanted such monuments built.
I think it wiser, the retired military leader wrote about a proposed Gettysburg memorial in 1869, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.
genxlib
(5,526 posts)But I wonder how much of that was self preservation. If I walked away from the war as freely as he did, I would want everyone to forget it as well. He is lucky he didn't rot in jail or worse.
hlthe2b
(102,276 posts)disagreed with you adamantly and based on the fairly wide reading and documentaries I've seen the past twenty years or so, I would too.
Lee was apparently very adamant that there not be incitements to lingering bitterness and aggrievances among southern sympathizers.
Lee is not without criticism but I have long wondered if the sins of Jefferson Davis and others of that ilk are not being visited upon Lee out of ignorance of the facts.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)Both Lincoln & Johnson thought the best way to repair the country was to avoid seeking vengeance. Seems as though they were right.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)or African Americans after the end of Re-Construction. Ultimately, many in the South didn't seem to learn a lesson at all. Just romanticized their cause.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)After the war Lee said he made a mistake getting a military education and made a point to march out of step if he was in a military parade while president of what became Washington and Lee University.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)Union & Confederate soldiers living together in the same town.
The first two streets running northsouth on the west side of the city were named after Confederate generals Lee and Johnston, whereas the first two on the east side were named after Union generals Grant and Sherman
Girard442
(6,072 posts)...were commanded on both sides by West Point graduates. I swear, if Rommel had gone to West Point they'd have put up a monument to him.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)they were not raised by the US Government, but rather by the Daughters of the Confederacy up through the 1st World War.
Every single one should go, including Stone Mountain.
Every one celebrates oppression and slavery. Every one is a lie.
On edit: I learn that Stone Mountain was funded by the US Federal Government and the State of Georgia. It should be destroyed.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)What better way could there be
to commemorate Robert E Lee
than running people over with your car?
oasis
(49,387 posts)Lee's supposed military "genius", is all bullshit. 💩💩💩💩💩💩<this.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Pickett never forgave Lee. He should have added "Thanks to your stupid decision."
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)who advised against the charge. He was blamed in the south for the failure of the charge, when anybody with any sanity at the time knew it couldn't succeed. Hell, it wasn't even mostly his troops. There were three divisions in the charge. Two of them were from Hill's corps. Lee ordered Longstreet to command the charge.
The movie was a bit stylized, like Hollywood does things, but it was pretty accurate about the sequence of the orders that day.
sanatanadharma
(3,706 posts)...Lead a coup against President Lincoln.
Rhiannon12866
(205,366 posts)Trump is not exactly a student of history...
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)czarjak
(11,277 posts)Lose!
Rhiannon12866
(205,366 posts)A lot of patriots are buried there, I was particularly moved at actually seeing JFK's grave and the eternal flame - with his brothers close beside him - and his newborn baby, Patrick, too.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)"How the African-American Syphax Family Traces Its Lineage to Martha Washington." Resources at the African American History Museum deliver a wealth of opportunity for genealogical research. March 9, 2018.
When Stephen Hammond was growing up, he scoffed when relatives told him he was related to the family of the nations first president, George Washington. It turns out, they were absolutely right. Weve discovered many documents that have been written that have talked about the Washingtons and their connection to the Syphaxes, Hammond explains.
The patriarch of the family, William Anderson Syphax, was a freed slave, born in 1773. His son, Charles Syphax, was a slave at Mount Vernon, the home of George and Martha Washington. Charles Syphax was among nearly 60 slaves inherited by George Washington Parke Custis, the grandson of Martha Washington. Charles Syphax eventually married a mulatto slave named Maria Carter Custis, the illegitimate daughter of George Washington Parke Custis and a slave maid. The powerful family remains active in the D.C. area, and has made many accomplishments in cities across the nation.
I think the most important thing is that the Syphaxes have had a huge impact on the education of African-Americans in Washington, D.C., Hammond says. I think the Syphaxes have had a tremendous impact on aspects of this country and I think other (African-American) families do as well. Read More...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-african-american-syphax-family-traces-its-lineage-martha-washington-180968439/
Arlington House, front view. Home of George Washington Parke Custis, nicknamed 'Washy,' the grandson raised by Martha Dandridge Custis Washington and George Washington at Mount Vernon. Custis built his home, Arlington not far from Mount Vernon in the early 1800s. During the Civil War the property was confiscated by the federal government.
Maria Carter Custis Syphax, (Mrs. Charles Syphax) was the daughter of George Washington Parke Custis (grandson of Martha Washington, and father- in- law of Robert E. Lee). Maria Syphax was the half sister of Mary Custis Lee (Mrs. Robert E. Lee) through their father 'Washy' Custis. Similar relationships existed between slaves and planters such as the Hemmings and Jefferson familes of Monticello, and many others in the US south.
The Syphax family of Arlington, Va. dates to the 1700s with ties to the Parke-Custis-Washington-Lee families.
appalachiablue
(41,132 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:13 AM - Edit history (2)
Robert E. Lee Memorial yet I think the equestrian statue of him in Charlottesville, Va. and any others should go to a place other than Arlington House. The property was actually the family home of Lee's wife, Mary Randolph Custis Lee, the only child of G.W.P.C. 'Washy' Lee and Maria Lee Fitzhugh. Robert E. Lee (1807-1870) and wife Mary were unable to return to the Arlington property after the Civil War. They lived instead in Lexington, Va. where he held the president position at Washington and Lee University for the last five years of his life. The Lees are buried in the Lee Chapel crypt there with their children. In my view, CSA & RE Lee statuary/memorials should remain on private property and not on public view.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee
Equestrian statue of Robert E. Lee, Charlottesville, Va.
+ Wiki. Robert E. Lee, Sculpture: The Robert Edward Lee (sculpture) at Charlottesville was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1997. Since there is no historical link between Lee and the city of Charlottesville, the City Council of Charlottesville voted in February 2017 to remove it, along with a statue of Stonewall Jackson, but this was temporarily stayed by court action. They did rename Lee Park, Emancipation Park.
The prospect of the statues being removed and the parks being renamed, brought many out-of-towners, described as white supremacist and alt-right, to Charlottesville in the Unite the Right rally of August 2017, in which 3 people died. For several months the monuments were shrouded in black. As of October 2018, the fate of the statue of Lee is unresolved. The name of the park it is located in was changed again by the City Council, to Market Street Park, in July 2018.
+ Views on Slavery: In 1865, after the war, Lee was paroled and signed an oath of allegiance, asking to have his citizenship of the United States restored. Lee's application was misplaced; as a result, he did not receive a pardon and his citizenship was not restored. In 1865, Lee became president of Washington College (later Washington and Lee University) in Lexington, Virginia; in that position, he supported reconciliation between North and South. Lee accepted "the extinction of slavery" provided for by the Thirteenth Amendment, but publicly opposed racial equality and granting African Americans the right to vote and other political rights. Lee died in 1870. In 1975, the U.S. Congress posthumously restored Lee's citizenship effective June 13, 1865.
+ 'Lost Cause' Mythology: Lee opposed the construction of public memorials to Confederate rebellion on the grounds that they would prevent the healing of wounds inflicted during the war. Nevertheless, after his death, Lee became an icon used by promoters of "Lost Cause" mythology, who sought to romanticize the Confederate cause and strengthen white supremacy in the South. Later in the 20th century, particularly following the civil rights movement, historians reassessed Lee; his reputation fell based on his failure to support rights for freedmen after the war, and even his strategic choices as a military leader fell under scrutiny.
- Wiki. Arlington House, The Robert E. Lee Memorial, also known as the CustisLee Mansion, is a Greek revival mansion in Arlington, Virginia, that was once Lee's home. It overlooks the Potomac River and the National Mall in Washington, D.C. During the Civil War, the grounds of the mansion were selected as the site of Arlington National Cemetery, in part to ensure that Lee would never again be able to return to his home. The United States designated the mansion as a National Memorial to Lee in 1955, a mark of widespread respect for him in both the North and South.
Arlington House, main east front facing the Potomac River with Union soldiers on the lawn during the Civil War, 1864.