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kentuck

(111,095 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:20 PM Apr 2019

This story on Rosenstein makes the picture much clearer...

We were scratching our heads trying to figure out what Rosenstein was doing? For a while, we thought he was the primary person keeping the Mueller investigation alive. The Republicans had threatened to impeach him. He thought he was going to be fired.

Then, he got a second life.

Now, we know why. He was surreptitiously informing Trump that he would "land the plane" for him. Somewhere along the line, he decided that he would clear Donald Trump of all charges. Did he do it to keep his job?

He broke all rules and protocol. It was a traitorous act. There are no words....

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This story on Rosenstein makes the picture much clearer... (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2019 OP
And, boy are the former members going after him. True Blue American Apr 2019 #1
Their true colors eventually show themselves... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #2
It's probably that simple. he did it to keep his job. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #3
I've tried to think of ways to separate Justice from Executive...without creating another Karadeniz Apr 2019 #4
You need a law that states that Justice Dept is under the direction Volaris Apr 2019 #16
That would work! Karadeniz Apr 2019 #38
IMHO, too much is being made of this story manor321 Apr 2019 #5
No, we're talking about Barr and Rosenstein's version. triron Apr 2019 #14
Rosenstein giving the president assurances on the Mueller investigation isn't super critical? Not .. uponit7771 Apr 2019 #17
That landing plane analogy is a disaster for ReTHUGs malaise Apr 2019 #6
You're reading my mind! However, since Barr and Rosenstein MFGsunny Apr 2019 #37
and trump is calling the republican led special counsel investigation a coup spanone Apr 2019 #7
Is there anyone in that administration who is not complicit? Totally Tunsie Apr 2019 #8
It really is overwhelming. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #9
Why is Mueller's report suspect? BKDem Apr 2019 #11
Rosenstein was Mueller's boss. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #12
Exactly. This is why Mueller didn't find criminal conspiracy. triron Apr 2019 #15
I would say he has more crying to do in his future, but I'm sure some Republican will slap Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #10
A weasel. Jim Comey called him a "Survivor", and it wasn't a compliment. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #13
+ 100 n/t MBS Apr 2019 #24
For him it was pension before patriotism. kairos12 Apr 2019 #18
I said here many times during the Meuller investigation Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #19
His greatest projection yet: '...a coup against the United States of America' spanone Apr 2019 #20
Put his skinny cowardly ass in jail the big cry baby. Pepsidog Apr 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author barbtries Apr 2019 #22
He's just another tRump butt plug. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #23
William Barr said the same thing. Hotler Apr 2019 #25
It's code. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #30
The more that is revealed the more it all sounds like Shakespeare eleny Apr 2019 #26
I refer you to Everything Trump Touches Dies Hekate Apr 2019 #27
Rosenstine is a d*** SMoss Apr 2019 #28
Rosenstein HAD to land the plane since he is involved. He wrote the letter...he is a witness, he UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #29
weak, corrupt traitor. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #31
Exactly kentuck, exactly. So, disgusting. iluvtennis Apr 2019 #32
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2019 #33
Mueller did not clear Trump of all charges. Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #34
talking about Rosenstein? kentuck Apr 2019 #35
That was not Rosenstein's place. Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #36
Isn't that the same phrasing Republicans used for the Florida vote count in 2000? gratuitous Apr 2019 #39

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
4. I've tried to think of ways to separate Justice from Executive...without creating another
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:27 PM
Apr 2019

J. Edgar situation. Any ideas?

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
16. You need a law that states that Justice Dept is under the direction
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:22 PM
Apr 2019

of the Executive, unless the investigation is OF the sitting executive or a member of the their cabinet...at which point, operate that inquiry under the joint auspices of the Supreme Court and the Judicary Committee Heads...and cut the ATTY GENERALS office out of the loop.

Something along those lines would be my suggestion...

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
5. IMHO, too much is being made of this story
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:27 PM
Apr 2019

Yes, it is an important story. But my biggest fear is it makes it sound like our side believes the Mueller report clears the president (and that we're looking to complain about that). The truth is that the Mueller report is devastating.

And, as has been explained many times, if the Special Counsel was turned down for anything he wanted, Congress would be notified immediately. They never got that notice.

Rosenstein needs to testify to the House for this. It's an important story, not a super critical one.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
17. Rosenstein giving the president assurances on the Mueller investigation isn't super critical? Not ..
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:51 PM
Apr 2019

...understanding everything about this story but Rosenstein not being impartial sounds pretty big.

Also,

We don't know what Rosenstein has or hasn't done, we need Mueller's own words

malaise

(268,998 posts)
6. That landing plane analogy is a disaster for ReTHUGs
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:27 PM
Apr 2019

in the middle of the scandal related to two Boeing crashes

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
37. You're reading my mind! However, since Barr and Rosenstein
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 04:09 PM
Apr 2019

ASSURED dumpster-don that "they're landing the plane" they should BOTH worry that 1) neither of them has any competent pilot's license and 2) the exposure they've gotten so far in the news concludes their "landing" is a CRASH messaging escapade. OMG they couldn't even put different analogies together!!!!!!

TWO fools sitting in a tree .........

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
9. It really is overwhelming.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:30 PM
Apr 2019

It is hard to understand the ease with which these people were corrupted. Rosenstein sold out and "landed the plane' for Trump.

The entire Mueller investigation and report is now suspect.

This is now unraveling and revealing itself to be a massive cover-up of the crimes of Donald J. Trump.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
11. Why is Mueller's report suspect?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
Apr 2019

What's suspect is how quickly it ended after Barr's appointment. The report -- as far as it goes -- was comprehensive and professional. The question is, was Mueller planning to go further?

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
12. Rosenstein was Mueller's boss.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:47 PM
Apr 2019

Rosenstein was controlling the investigation. Mueller had to answer to Rosenstein throughout the entire two years.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
10. I would say he has more crying to do in his future, but I'm sure some Republican will slap
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

a medal on him like they did to Tenet.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
19. I said here many times during the Meuller investigation
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:00 PM
Apr 2019

that I was not comfortable with the future of our country being in the hands of a bunch of republican FBI agents. Sadly, I think I was correct.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
20. His greatest projection yet: '...a coup against the United States of America'
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:01 PM
Apr 2019

He was referring to the republican initiated Special Counsel investigation led by Robert Mueller

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
25. William Barr said the same thing.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:14 PM
Apr 2019

"I'm landing this plane right now." blah, blah blah. Interesting choice of words for these guys.

SMoss

(112 posts)
28. Rosenstine is a d***
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:40 PM
Apr 2019

Watching him stand behind Barr expressionless whole Barr lied to the nation told me he has no spine.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
29. Rosenstein HAD to land the plane since he is involved. He wrote the letter...he is a witness, he
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:10 PM
Apr 2019

licked some rumphole and yes broke rules and protocol. I think he wanted OUT of this whole thing and he did land the plane but the plane is severely damaged and banged up. It can't be flown again --- it is forever grounded and now will be inspected with scrutiny.

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
34. Mueller did not clear Trump of all charges.
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:40 PM
Apr 2019

And he did not break protocol; he said the only reason he didn't charge Trump with obstruction was that he couldn't due to existing policy. Barr was the one who "exonerated" him. Mueller did hand Congress a road map to impeachment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
39. Isn't that the same phrasing Republicans used for the Florida vote count in 2000?
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:57 PM
Apr 2019

Why yes, yes it is:

Vanity Fair's 2004 story on the Florida vote count:

Katherine Harris, Florida’s elected secretary of state, managed to make herself into a lightning rod for both sides’ feelings about the election. She had worked in her spare time as an ardent partisan for the Bush campaign and had served as a delegate to the Republican convention that summer. She remained one of George W.’s eight campaign co-chairs for Florida right up until Election Day.

* * *

Sensing trouble, the Bush camp gave her a “minder”: Mac Stipanovich, a coolly efficient Republican lobbyist who worked in Tallahassee. Stipanovich had served as a campaign adviser for Jeb in his first, unsuccessful run for governor, in 1994, and he had remained closely aligned with him ever since. Stipanovich appealed to Harris’s grandiosity. (Her e-mails replying to Bush supporters later revealed that she had begun identifying with Queen Esther, who, in the Old Testament, saved the Jews from genocide. “My sister and I prayed for full armour this morning,” she wrote. “Queen Esther has been a wonderful role model.”) He told her that nothing less than the course of history rested on her shoulders. “You have to bring this election in for a landing,” he repeated again and again.
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