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Me.

(35,454 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:18 PM Apr 2019

How frustrated pilots got the Navy to stop dismissing UFO sightings

“A recent uptick in sightings of unidentified flying objects - or as the military calls them, “unexplained aerial phenomena” - prompted the U.S. Navy to draft formal procedures for pilots to document encounters, a corrective measure that former officials say is long overdue.

"Since 2014, these intrusions have been happening on a regular basis," Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, told The Washington Post on Wednesday. Recently, unidentified aircraft entered military-designated airspace as often as multiple times per month. "We want to get to the bottom of this. We need to determine who's doing it, where it's coming from and what their intent is. We need to try to find ways to prevent it from happening again."

Citing safety and security concerns, Gradisher vowed to "investigate each and every report."
Luis Elizondo, a former senior intelligence officer, told The Post that the new Navy guidelines formalized the reporting process, facilitating data-driven analysis while removing the stigma from talking about UFOs, calling it "the single greatest decision the Navy has made in decades."

https://www.nola.com/news/2019/04/how-frustrated-pilots-got-the-navy-to-stop-dismissing-ufo-sightings.html

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CaptainTruth

(6,602 posts)
2. No, it's a national security matter.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:59 PM
Apr 2019

I've been researching this lately & there are regular documented sightings (visual corroborated with radar) of unknown craft intruding on US military airspace. This isn't about aliens in flying saucers, it's about "do the Russians have something we don't know about?"

Having a central repository for information will allow it to be studied & not just ignored.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
3. With the number of drones out there...
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:24 AM
Apr 2019

this is something that needs addressing. Might just be some stupid hobbyists, but could be something more sinister. Probably a little bit of both.

Our current admin is such a sellout.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
7. what's worse, with this current administration the Russians could be openly operating
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 06:02 AM
Apr 2019

with surveillance and espionage activities, including airspace intrusions if they wanted, and nothing would be done about it. I mean hell, within a month of being in office he was entertaining top Russian intelligence officials in the oval office...

triron

(22,020 posts)
13. Agree. There is abundant evidence of the existence of UFO's.
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:37 PM
May 2019

For reasons that are unclear our government has been hard at work suppressing this.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
14. I suspect the basic reason it's suppressed/mocked is because our "leaders" have no idea
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:48 PM
May 2019

what they are, or what to do about them, and being completely clueless and powerless in the situation would rather not have those characteristics highlighted to the general public, who might expect some kind of action to be taken or something, and then the authorities' complete inability to deal with the situation would be exposed.

It's a lot easier to just tell people they didn't see what they just saw, etc. In all of human history nothing has really come of doing so...I don't think there's much of a "conspiracy to hide the truth" beyond that...just the basic truth of their uselessness in this particular case.

There are numerous cases where huge numbers of witnesses have seen things that can't be explained; the Air Force or someone will eventually throw out some cockamamie explanation that the public will swallow b/c they don't want to admit that humans aren't the be-all and end-all of creation like we like to think we are.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
12. Too many pilots, both civil and military ..
Thu May 2, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019

Have reported aerial phoenomina for them all to be deluded or mistaken. When Navy Aviators report something, AND have video proof that is enough to convince me that something is out there.

Of course the USAF has lied so repeatedly about aircraft and bases, so it could all be TS SCI programs that even the Navy is not in the loop.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
4. It is good they will stop suppressing this reporting
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 12:46 AM
Apr 2019

Although they still probably won't report it to the public.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
5. The USA is known to have stealth aircraft...and used them under the guise of "UFO"
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 01:49 AM
Apr 2019

....but when have we heard about other countries stealth aircraft? Such as;

Russia,
China,
Inida,
EU,
etc.

The first shot down stealth aircraft happened in the Balkan's war...it now hangs in a museum, Russia, could have asked for it for study, but didn't. That says, they have a pretty good grip of stealth technology....

The Question is;

Have they developed their own stealth aircraft and we haven't "officially" been updated?

Have they focused on weapons to track and destroy stealth aircraft?

Or, both?

With that said, if your looking for the Alien Angle, if they are out there, given the requirement to travel vast distances, they are so technically advanced, we would never see them...

...unless of course they want to fuck with us from time to time.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Cover up! Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:00 AM
May 2019

The U.S. Navy has drafted a procedure to investigate and catalogue reports of unidentified flying objects coming in from its pilots. But the service doesn’t expect to make the information public, citing privileged and classified reporting that is typically included in such files.

Joe Gradisher, a spokesman for the office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, said in a statement that the Navy expects to keep the information it gathers private for a number of reasons.

“Military aviation safety organizations always retain reporting of hazards to aviation as privileged information in order to preserve the free and honest prioritization and discussion of safety among aircrew,” Gradisher said. “Furthermore, any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information on military operations.”

The Navy theoretically could release broad statistics about the number of sightings and the results of the follow-up investigations without disclosing any classified information. Even if the information isn’t made available to the public, it could be reported to Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/navy-no-release-of-ufo-information-to-the-general-public-expected/2019/05/01/25ef6426-6b82-11e9-9d56-1c0cf2c7ac04_story.html?utm_term=.1671874ee669



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