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It looks like the NY AG is going to be a thorn in Trump's side and Barr has no jurisdiction over her. Reports are surfacing that the Trump Org. has been using undocumented workers for decades at Trump properties, golf courses, and the Va. vineyard.
Undocumented workers from Costa Rica even built golf greens at Trumps golf courses. The story is emerging because Trump made the undocumented workers clock out and work several extra hours for no pay. So now the NY AG is looking at whether Trump violated New York wage and hour laws.
Curious that more emphasis isn't being put on the fact that Trump has employed possibly thousands of undocumented workers.
The Trump Organization has responded that this story is fake news that it was just rogue workers who falsified papers to gain employment at Trump properties.
If I were one of our presidential candidates I would be hammering Trump about his con game of railing against illegal immigrants while at the same time hiring them. This takes away one of his campaign talking points if people would only push it.
Hopefully this story isn't covered up, Dems need to shine a light on it.
leftieNanner
(15,179 posts)They tried to say that these were "rogue workers" with false papers - which initially would indicate that the Managers at these properties thought they were all legally able to work in the US. So how did they know which workers they could force to work overtime with no pay? Hmmmm.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Trump sent down orders to cut costs, especially at his golf courses that lose money. This is how they cut costs by forcing undocumented workers to work without getting paid, undocumented workers can't complain. The reporter who broke this story said that he personally talked to 36 Trump employees who were forced to work without pay. The Trump organization is now firing these people because the NY AG is investigating it.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im sure they wont mind working overtime for free. Or getting minimum wage.
Hell! They would probably pay him for the privilege!
keithbvadu2
(36,962 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)after all, they knew that he was coming to save the day for them! (kinda' sad to make fun of people be duped by the FraudMeister!).
42bambi
(1,753 posts)jayschool2013
(2,313 posts)Hooray for journalists.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's what Roy Cohn taught him. Deny, deny, deny. Never admit to anything.
3Hotdogs
(12,439 posts)True Blue American
(17,994 posts)That dog wont hunt about them being, Rogue!
calimary
(81,527 posts)leftieNanner
(15,179 posts)Yes, we do. We have certainly fallen down the rabbit hole. Beyond any and all comprehension.
As the book title says, "Everything tRump touches, turns to...
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)10 years in prison would be a good start, effective immediately.
durablend
(7,465 posts)patphil
(6,230 posts)seems consistent to me.
Stuart G
(38,453 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,734 posts)jmowreader
(50,567 posts)Barr has control over SDNY, and if one of Trump's minions gets nailed by SDNY Trump can pardon them.
Barr has NO control, nor does Trump have pardon power, over the things NYAG does. And the New York attorney general doesn't like Donald Trump. If you really want to put the hurt on Trump, you do it through the NYAG.
machoneman
(4,014 posts)G.M. and senior manager of a lot more complex and highly integrated firms than Trump's golf courses, unless he personally signed up these folks, I say phhtt!
It'll be the managers, directors, supervisors, et al of these facilities that may be charged and end up fined or even jailed. One can bet Trump's henchmen did all the sign-ups and they may be the only ones to pay. Think of it this way: has any CEO, of most large firms, ever gone to jail over the alleged law breaking of lower level minions. Not very often, unfortunately!
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)rump saying it's OK to to.
czarjak
(11,301 posts)spanone
(135,900 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)No. That's why Cohen is in prison, and Trump's not.
But seriously, it might be meaningful to independents because illegal immigration was one of Trump's top issues, the thing he has banged his gavel over the most for the last year (except for the "Russia hoax" . So any CEO would have made it clear to his managers that at this time, more than any other time, they need to check and doublecheck the staff to make sure everyone is legal.
The use of illegal immigrants in the hotel business is rampant, I would think.
This story won't mean anything to Trumpers, just like a secret meeting of Jr., Manafort, and Kushner with a Russian agent to get dirt on Clinton wasn't meaningful. Just like admitting he grabbed women's private parts because he could get away with it because he's a star. Just like mocking a disabled person wasn't meaningful. Just like locking children up in cages and shipping them off w/o records wasn't meaningful. Etc., etc.
The Trumpers have lost their souls. The only ones who MIGHT care are independents and a few established Trumpers.
TheBlackAdder
(28,227 posts).
Is is the employer's responsibility to verify all employees. This took even a stronger hold in 1990.
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True Blue American
(17,994 posts)Are the ones who falsified papers.
certainot
(9,090 posts)blasting from 600 radio stations. he's trumps most important weapon but ignored by the left
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)find some treasure soon. Because his approval was at 39% after Mueller Report released. So we withered that away with inaction. (i.e. immediate announcement we were moving toward impeachment).
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Good or bad, they are just used for propaganda
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)To blame his managers, but Im talking about the political implications for Trump. Trump Org. Has hired a huge amount of undocumented workers most likely for decades. If I were a Democratic candidate my campaign speech would be if Trump stopped hiring undocumented workers we wouldnt have so many trying to get in our southern border.
Why didnt Trump use e-verify?
FormerOstrich
(2,703 posts)not being nice.
The rally cry: They don't have anything but NOT TRUMP
Us: Let's focus on the policies and issues and show them we have substance.
Then on top of that, we are boring, too.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)time if convicted? If a fine it's another escape for these scum balls.
watoos
(7,142 posts)SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)I want her to be a dagger through his heart.
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)My ignorance brings me no bliss
I thought he was having a bad day because hes been publicly ridiculed ALL day today for his spelling of Kentuky and then stollen, and maybe because hes worried about Cohen dropping a dime on him at his press conference tomorrow, and since hes been screaming all day about NO MUELLER TESTIMONY, which may mean somethings comin down the pike...
Well, as long as dumbfuck45 is having a bad day, that brings a little comfort
Hang tough/rock steady NY AG Letitia James!!!
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)except for Nicolle and Rachel, but I thought this story would at least make the 24 hour news cycle.
Maybe the NY AG will keep the story alive.
It just makes me curious when Trump rages for his wall why there aren't any Democrats asking him why he hires so many of the same people he's trying to keep out?
Am I allowed to say that Democrats sukk at messaging?