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BREAKING MSNBC: Treasury Dept. will NOT release Idiot's tax returns (Original Post) MoonRiver May 2019 OP
LOCK HIM UP Tripper11 May 2019 #1
Yes Beatleman May 2019 #18
Here is Munchin's letter Gothmog May 2019 #2
Now that's some straight up bullshit right there gratuitous May 2019 #4
It's also not up to the Executive Branch to define a "legitimate legislative purpose" for Congress StarfishSaver May 2019 #7
Exactly. dalton99a May 2019 #9
What a load of crap. dalton99a May 2019 #8
After this there is even more reason to get those returns. Obviously there is something Maraya1969 May 2019 #13
Time to place Mnunchin under arrest. Takket May 2019 #3
They had better file contempt of congress crime on Mnuichin and follow it with handcuffs. Maraya1969 May 2019 #11
Yes, enough pussy footing around. nt Quixote1818 May 2019 #12
What a surprise NOT. triron May 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a May 2019 #6
Proving legitimate purpose BruceWane May 2019 #10
Mnuchin's argument fails. onenote May 2019 #14
Start impeaching the whole administration for failing to obey US law. sinkingfeeling May 2019 #15
They need to make an example out of somebody and this little turd would do nicely. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #16
... Scurrilous May 2019 #17
We need a brave whistle-blower/leaker inside IRS. Golden Raisin May 2019 #19
... demmiblue May 2019 #20
China, if you're listening.... Mr. Ected May 2019 #21
... MoonRiver May 2019 #22
if mnuchin wont follow the law why should anyone else? rdking647 May 2019 #23

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
1. LOCK HIM UP
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019

fuck them all...lock the whole fucking crime crew up.
Tony Soprano had better morals than this crew!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Now that's some straight up bullshit right there
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:50 PM
May 2019

The Supreme Court has not held that the Constitution requires that Congressional information demands must reasonably serve a legitimate legislative purpose. Isn't it curious that Mnuchin doesn't cite a case for his claimed Supreme Court holding?

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
13. After this there is even more reason to get those returns. Obviously there is something
Mon May 6, 2019, 06:04 PM
May 2019

explosive in them. The citizens of the US deserve to know.

Takket

(21,574 posts)
3. Time to place Mnunchin under arrest.
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:49 PM
May 2019

enough of this shit.

Do we have laws or don't we?

Shit or get off the pot, Dems.

Let's go.

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

BruceWane

(345 posts)
10. Proving legitimate purpose
Mon May 6, 2019, 06:00 PM
May 2019

Proving legitimate legislative purpose is quite easy - do laws governing financial relationships of the president need to be revised in light of the current president's refusal of transparency? Finance has changed a lot since current law was written.

They know they'll lose in court, this is just a stalling tactic.

Mnuchin (and the DOJ) are simply spinning when he says DOJ will soon publish a "legal opinion". DOJ legal opinions are simply legal advice given to the executive branch, they have no actual power in law. So IOW, more BS.

onenote

(42,707 posts)
14. Mnuchin's argument fails.
Mon May 6, 2019, 06:11 PM
May 2019

Reading between the lines, the argument being made is that access to Trump's tax returns doesn't serve any legitimate legislative function. Putting aside the point that the courts have indicated that the legislative power is very broad and that deference will generally be given to Congress' own conclusions as to what is relevant to the conduct of its legislative functions, Mnuchin essentially concedes at the end of the letter that Congress has a legitimate role to play in legislating with respect to presidential tax returns. By drawing a distinction between individual tax returns and more general information, Mnuchin essentially guts the statutory provision in question since one could always argue that whatever Congress is doing doesn't require it to see individual tax returns. And the reality is that Congress isn't necessarily only considering Trump's returns -- those are the only returns it doesn't have access to -- it can consider other recent tax returns of Presidents because those are public documents (which also suggests that the privacy interest isn't as strong as Mnuchin claims).

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
23. if mnuchin wont follow the law why should anyone else?
Mon May 6, 2019, 07:29 PM
May 2019

send the capitol police to arrest him. lock him up somewhere imto; he releases them.

ot else the rule of law has no meaning anymore

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