Please talk me down: Should we be worried about Israeli cyber?

[bigbrother05]

This is about technical and clandestine abilities, think Stuxnet.

Russia is brute force, Israel is finesse.

In 2016, Russian fingerprints were all over the hacks and social media bots. The WikiLeaks dumps might as well have been covered in flashing neon. Together they not only disrupted our whole system, they inserted their stooge into the WH.

4 years later there has been some tinkering at the edges and some public awakening, but the entire planet teeters on a Trump Tower ledge while we hold our breath.

Other than Putin's vision of Russia, Bebe has the most to gain by his buddy staying in office. Jared "Littlefinger" Kushner is all about back channels and manages a policy portfolio that straddles the Middle East and across the steppes.

With the internal attack on our intelligence apparatus, we are more vulnerable than we've been since the height of the Cold War.

[Fix The Stupid]

1. ANTI-SEMETIC..please delete. n/t

[watoos]

3. It's Semitic,

[comradebillyboy]

2. Yes we should be worried about Israeli interference on behalf

of Trump. It's almost like the Republican Party and Likud have merged. They are pushing very hard for a US led war against Iran.

[watoos]

4. Gotta be careful bigbrother,

Bibi is the prime minister of the US to some here.

[LanternWaste]

5. Why concern yourself with only one of many state players that have the same (or better) capabilities

"Other than Putin's vision of Russia, Bebe has the most to gain by his buddy staying in office..."

Is that merely a biased allegation, or do you have objective evidence supporting that allegation that you will present us and if so, what is the particular metric by which "the most to gain" is measured?

My curiosity though, lies in the fact that you concern yourself with only one of many state players that have the same (or better) capabilities. That seems to be a flawed use of inductive reasoning, as you ignore other relevant data points by focusing on only one.

That compels me to see your narrative as (at best) biased.

[uponit7771]

6. Cause Bibi is an overt asshole?

[bigbrother05]

8. BLUF: Speculative, not biased

It's true that many state players have cyber skills. The reference to Stuxnet reflects a jump off point for my speculation.

By most accounts, the Stuxnet attack on Iranian centrifuges has US/Israel origins and was quite effective at slowing their weapons development. That Stuxnet ultimately affected controls and mechanical systems, real not virtual devices, is worrisome when considering the known vulnerabilities of automated voting systems in the US.

The media has made much of the contrast between Obama & Trump when it comes to the interpersonal relationship with PM Netanyahu and his concerns with Iran's posture in the region.

Bottom line: Speculating on a wide array of factors and the realization that Trump has continued to blow past any lines that should not be crossed, I tried to conceive a worst case scenario for the upcoming elections.

As I stated, please talk me down because Doomsday Don continues to best our worst fears.

BTW: was it biased to think that the Sessions/Whitaker/Barr DoJ would participate in a coverup/obstruction?

[tritsofme]

7. Better watch out for those shifty JOOOOOS!1!

Delete this crap.

[lark]

12. Sorry it hurts your feelings, but it is 100% true, israeli government loves drumpf.

Life isn't always neat and clean.

[tritsofme]

13. This is conspiracy theory mongering. Nothing more.

[lark]

14. Not even slightly true.

I saw it on AM Joy, it was the ex-Israeli ambassador and guaranteed they will heavily support him again, Bibi loves him. Shut your eyes, hold your breath and sing la la la all you want, it won't change the truth of my statement. It was even covered in NYT the next day.

[tritsofme]

15. Oh, you heard it on tv? Well that settles that...

Does Netenyahu want Trump to win? Of course. Is there any evidence that the Israeli government is waging a Putin-esque war on US Democrats?

No, none at all. It is conspiracy theory nonsense.

[lark]

16. There is none so blind as she/he who will not see.

Netanyahu absolutely waged war on Obama, 100% he hates Democrats and loves criminal repugs, especially drumof - they are soul mates.

Do I know that the Israeli ambassador wasn't lying, no, but you don't know that he was lying either - your choice to ignore whatever you wish.

[tritsofme]

17. Your vague recollections of something you saw on tv once are certainly the definitive authority here

What was I thinking?

Again, there is no doubt Netenyahu and Trump are political soulmates, it was also obvious that both President Obama and Netenyahu wanted the other to lose his respective reelection, but you have presented absolutely nothing to suggest that the Israeli government is waging a Putin-like campaign against Democrats. It is made up nonsense, quit peddling crap.

[kentuck]

9. Isn't that who Papadopalous was working for?

Israeli intelligence?

[Hassler]

10. With Cheetolini, we should worry about everyone meddling in our election.

He knows it's the only way he'll win.

[lark]

11. 100$ we should be worried.

I personally saw an interview with the ex-Israeli ambassador on the AM Joy show last year and he said yes, they offered assistance to drumpf and would do so again and we'd never know because they'd find American proxies to make the illegal cash look legal. He said Israel strongly wanted Cheetolini to be president and now he is.

[Wounded Bear]

18. Repubs leave us vulnerable to ALL cyberops, everywhere...

Between Trump and the Repubs in congress, we're vulnerable.