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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:22 PM May 2019

Americans' support for impeaching Trump rises: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Source: Reuters

POLITICS MAY 9, 2019 / 3:58 PM / UPDATED 15 MINUTES AGO

Americans' support for impeaching Trump rises: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Chris Kahn
4 MIN READ

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The number of Americans who said President Donald Trump should be impeached rose 5 percentage points to 45 percent since mid-April, while more than half said multiple congressional probes of Trump interfered with important government business, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday.

The opinion poll, conducted on Monday, did not make clear whether investigation-fatigued Americans wanted House of Representatives Democrats to pull back on their probes or press forward aggressively and just get impeachment over with.

The question is an urgent one for senior Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives, who are wrestling with whether to launch impeachment proceedings, despite likely insurmountable opposition to it in the Republican-controlled Senate.

On Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi re-emphasized that the leaders of the investigative committees in the Democratic-controlled House were taking a step-by-step approach.

“This is very methodical, it’s very Constitution-based,” Pelosi said. “We won’t go any faster than the facts take us, or any slower than the facts take us.”

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll/americans-support-for-impeaching-trump-rises-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1SF2D9
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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Uncanny!
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:25 PM
May 2019

It's as if by talking about impeachment, and detailing the impeachable offenses again and again, we've moved the needle on impeachment 5 points since just last month. What fiendish sorcery is this? How can public opinion be changed just by putting out a consistent message strongly supported by facts?

spanone

(135,843 posts)
7. We've also been aided by the monster himself. People in general want to lead normal lives...
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:45 PM
May 2019

without this daily shit.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. This is what gets me
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019
while more than half said multiple congressional probes of Trump interfered with important government business


Do the idiots not realize that the Rump is interfering more with important government business than anyone in the last 40 years? Do they just refuse to accept reality?

Mister Ed

(5,938 posts)
6. Indeed.
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:36 PM
May 2019

What do they think the House should be busy doing? Passing legislation that Mitch McConnell's Senate will refuse to even look at?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
10. Yup. "Interfering" by systematically dismantling EVERY executive agency.
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:15 PM
May 2019

Too many people point to legislative failures and claim "Trump isn't accomplishing his agenda."

The reality is that the damage he has done to every executive agency has rendered those agencies incapable of effectively enforcing the laws that are on the books. I fear it will take a very, very, long time to recover from that damage.

Tech

(1,771 posts)
5. It would be nice if they would include the phrasing of the poll questions
Thu May 9, 2019, 04:34 PM
May 2019

With the media. All I could get from the press release was this was an online poll to 1006 adults.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
9. "We won't go any faster than the facts take us..."
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:10 PM
May 2019

Hey Nancy, the facts are already on the table. Quit your "impeachment is the third rail" bullshit. The most effective way to stand up to Trump's BIG LIE that "Mueller investigation exonerated me of everything" is to start impeachment investigation and keep quoting key passages of the report. For example:

“With respect to whether the president can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under Article II of the Constitution, we concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,” Mueller’s team wrote.

Muller, while noting that the president has a “constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws,” went on to say “the separation-of-powers doctrine authorizes Congress to protect official proceedings, including those of courts and grand juries, from corrupt, obstructive acts regardless of their source.”

“The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of the office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” Mueller wrote.


The evidence of Trump's "corrupt use of his authority" is there in black and white. Just as Bush tortured in plain site, Trump's abuses are now "in plain sight" (and have been long before confirmed in Mueller's report).

You have all the ammo you need to make the black and white case to the American people. You can't counter lies with "we're looking into it." You must counter them with the TRUTH. Quit mealy mouthing. It serves no purpose but to give legitimacy to Trump's lies.

CNN
Former Whitewater prosecutor: Congress should start impeachment proceedings

Seattle Times
Chris Vance
End Constitutional Catch-22 and impeach President Trump
(Chris Vance is a former (Republican) member of the Washington State Legislature and former chair of the Washington State Republican Party.)

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
11. Anyone with a Republican Senator: call them, write them, picket their home offices...
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:35 PM
May 2019

Impeachment cannot make it through the Senate until the GOP gets the message.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
12. The Deadline WH crew had a good discussion about this
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:36 PM
May 2019

They were talking about Pelosi's "self-impeachment" comment and her strategy. I forget who said it, but their point was that Pelosi is giving Trump enough rope to harm himself. Essentially, she is letting Trump himself make the case for his own impeachment. Every day, Trump gets more lawless and Americans are noticing as this poll indicates.

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