The Rudy Giuliani-in-Ukraine story, in summary:

[dixiegrrrrl]

From SethAbramson.......

Trump's lawyer has self-admittedly gone overseas to solicit 2020 election interference from pro-Kremlin Ukrainians at a time he knows the Kremlin is engaged in an ongoing cyberattack on our electoral infrastructure.

Link to tweet

[Wounded Bear]

1. So the person who "won" with Russian help...

is sending his lackey to solicit help from another foreign power.

[dixiegrrrrl]

4. Or the same power.

Russia is occupying Ukraine in the eastern half.

and Pompeo blew off a meeting with European allies to go see Putin this week.

[dewsgirl]

2. So what is happening here? If they do it out in the open

It's fine. I mean that's what they have all been doing and they've been getting away with it.

[Blue Owl]

3. Insane in the Ukraine

n/t

[mithnanthy]

9. INSANE IN THE BRAIN!

Yes!

[Baitball Blogger]

5. He's trying to legitimize what Trump's conduits did in 2016.

Gutsy move on Giuliani's behalf. If we can't go against Giuliani, how can you go against anyone else?

[Lucky Luciano]

6. Hah...I'm in Kiev now. Took these 30 minutes ago!

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. why does the 2nd pic look like the building is leaning?

while the others in the same pic look level.

[Lucky Luciano]

17. Not sure...was there again today in the daylight.

Definitely not tilted. Only guess I have is some distortion in big iPad pictures from curvature in the lense?!?! I dunno! Weird though!

[johannsyah]

7. so there are still pro Russians in Ukraine?

I thought Ukraine broke up with Russia like 4 years ago

[blue-wave]

11. Yes

They settled there during the Russian occupation. That would be the former Soviet Union days.

[Gothmog]

8. Washington Post-Opinion: Why the alleged Joe Biden "Ukraine conspiracy" doesn't hold up

Link to tweet

The trouble began when right-wing bloggers sought to meld these two points into a single conspiracy in which Joe Biden had the prosecutor sacked to protect his son’s business interests. I may be an outsider to the bewildering mess that is Ukrainian politics, but, on this particular issue, I have a genuine insight into what happened, having written extensively about Hunter Biden’s ex-employer, Mykola Zlochevsky.

As a result, when journalists seek the fire behind the smoke in the Biden-Ukraine tale, they often call to ask my opinion. Many are eager to flesh out what seems a satisfyingly simple conspiracy, but I have to tell them: It isn’t true. The timeline doesn’t work. The investigation into Burisma, Hunter Biden’s employer, had ground to a halt long before the prosecutor was sacked. A subsequent probe into the company’s owner was opened because of a request from Ukrainian legislators, not because of prosecutorial initiative. There is, in short, no there there; the bloggers are putting two and two together — and coming up with 22.

Hunter Biden should not have taken the job; Joe Biden should probably not have boasted about bullying the president of another country. But those are judgment matters for them personally, not proof of conspiracy, and certainly not an affair worth destabilizing the fragile democracy of a new U.S. ally.

But that has not stopped Giuliani, who tweeted last week: “how deep and how high did the alleged Ukraine conspiracy go?” He was responding to a story in the New York Times (the Times apparently not “failing” on this occasion, since Trump retweeted the paper’s story), which analyzed the theories around the Bidens’ Ukraine connection. The article ticked all the journalistic boxes, giving father and son space to deny wrongdoing, but still raised a cloud of smoke for those shouting “fire.” If a major newspaper devotes 2,500 words to conflict-of-interest questions, then those questions presumably exist. How often do you beat your wife?

[yaesu]

10. mobster boss attorney looking to cover up as many crimes as he can before the shit hits the fan nt

[blue-wave]

12. He must be tried for treason.

It appears he is intentionally soliciting for cyber war against the United States with a foreign adversary.

[kacekwl]

16. Yah right.

They have been given the green light to do whatever they want. That's what happens when you have no law enforcement.

[Roy Rolling]

13. The Best Man for the Job

[gordianot]

14. Trump lost Michael Cohen and David Pecker so he goes to his ghoul.

In broad daylight for all to see. Astounding, galling how very Republican. Trump obviously is desperate as is the fate of all tyrants.