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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:06 AM May 2019

Pelosi to Impatient Dems: We've Got Trump on the Ropes

Pelosi to Impatient Dems: We’ve Got Trump on the Ropes
‘Even this impeachment inquiry is the same f*cking process,’ said one senior Democratic aide. ‘You will still end up in the courts.’
Sam Stein, Sam Brodey
05.22.19 9:00 PM ET


Shortly after she’d left a fiery White House meeting, during which the president had threatened to stop working with her on all legislative matters, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) was asked to speculate why she, more than others, seemed to fluster President Trump.

“He recognizes the unity of our caucus and that is a very big deal,” she told the crowd at the Center for American Progress’ annual Ideas Festival. “I think he sees the fact that we are united as something he has to contend with, to deal with… That unity gives me leverage.”


The comment drew knowing applause from those in attendance—a mix of policy types and party donors who uniformly worship at the altar of Pelosi. But the intended audience was not them. It was her fellow Democrats on Capitol Hill.

In recent weeks, the party unity that Pelosi prizes internally and deploys politically has come under immense strain as a growing number of lawmakers have demanded more aggressive oversight of the Trump administration, including the consideration of articles of impeachment. The pressure had grown acute enough in recent days that Pelosi’s staff decided to convene a caucus meeting on Wednesday morning to address it.

The task of calming nerves was supposed to fall to Doug Letter, the House Democrat’s general counsel. But he was busy dealing with one of the party’s growing list of lawsuits against the Trump administration. And so, the speaker turned it over to relevant committee chairs to lay out the investigative progress they’d made to soothe their more anxious colleagues.

According to those in attendance, the chairs did an effective job. Though lawmakers like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) spoke up afterward to relay fears that the party may look back and realize it did vanishingly little at a political crisis point, others encouraged lawmakers to trust Pelosi’s more deliberate process. Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) stressed that while the House Judiciary Committee had been “dissed” by the administration, other committees had seen success. More than one speaker argued that impeachment would not prove to be the elixir that its supporters envisioned.

“Even this impeachment inquiry is the same fucking process,” said one senior Democratic aide. “You will still end up in the courts.”


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Pelosi to Impatient Dems: We've Got Trump on the Ropes (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
Are dems United? Shell_Seas May 2019 #1
Then they are rumpanzees and they should just vote rump right out the gate. They need to stop UniteFightBack May 2019 #3
Are these Democratic voting Bernie Supporters or Libertarian/Indy/Weak Republican leaning voters? Afromania May 2019 #4
Your post made me laugh out loud, thanks. watoos May 2019 #5
Then they just don't care about the Republic. PragmaticLiberal May 2019 #7
cool story bro Blues Heron May 2019 #8
Thank you for your concern. nt babylonsister May 2019 #10
It's not the same f*cking process, watoos May 2019 #2
We still have that chip in our stack...no need to play it just yet. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #6
Wait, how is being- supposedly, but not at all- united AGAINST impeaching Trump coti May 2019 #9
Good thought. ananda May 2019 #11

Shell_Seas

(3,335 posts)
1. Are dems United?
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

I think for the most part, but I've had some more than infuriating conversations with Bernie supporters lately who have vowed to vote for Trump or not vote at all, if Bernie loses primary.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
3. Then they are rumpanzees and they should just vote rump right out the gate. They need to stop
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:16 AM
May 2019

fronting.

Afromania

(2,770 posts)
4. Are these Democratic voting Bernie Supporters or Libertarian/Indy/Weak Republican leaning voters?
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:16 AM
May 2019

My bet is that they LIWR's in disguise.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. It's not the same f*cking process,
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:15 AM
May 2019

There is a much higher likelihood that we get the grand jury testimony under an impeachment inquiry. Just this added information will make a tremendous difference in the impeachment process.

We are going to impeach Trump, correct?

Is it worth chancing that we may never get the grand jury testimony in time under regular hearings?

coti

(4,612 posts)
9. Wait, how is being- supposedly, but not at all- united AGAINST impeaching Trump
Thu May 23, 2019, 08:34 AM
May 2019

giving Pelosi leverage again? Seems to me it's the people keeping the pressure on that are providing the leverage.

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