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(52,309 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:41 PM May 2019

interesting how sticking to policy wasn't really important when hillary was investigated.

comey didn't seem to have a problem making negative editorial comments about her actions.

comey didn't seem to have a problem making statements that could influence well inside of the 60 day limit on such things.

comey didn't seem to have a problem essentially saying the investigation was being reopened before even looking to see if he actually even had any new evidence (of course he didn't).


but mueller has to stick to "policy" and can't indict a sitting president, make a sealed indictment against a sitting president, or even clearly state that he would have indicted if he could (he left the question opened, but unanswered).

because, you know, that would be "unfair"....

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interesting how sticking to policy wasn't really important when hillary was investigated. (Original Post) unblock May 2019 OP
Republicans Always Circle the Wagons-Party Before Country dlk May 2019 #1
Dems need to encircle their circle. Chin music May 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author dlk May 2019 #3
Mueller followed a written DoJ policy; Comey violated an unwritten norm of the FBI. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #4
i think mueller went beyond even what's written unblock May 2019 #5
If you're interested in what the OLC memos said, here's a reference: The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #6
Two party system has two sets of rules because the dems dont fight back Fullduplexxx May 2019 #7

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
2. Dems need to encircle their circle.
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:50 PM
May 2019

We way outnumber them. See any protest since he's been elected.

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unblock

(52,309 posts)
5. i think mueller went beyond even what's written
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019

i haven't read the actual 1973 policy, or any updates, but i suspect your observation may be accurate in terms of not indicting a sitting president, but not in terms of not commenting on whether or not he would have been indicted were it not for this policy.

more generally, i kinda feel like your observation approaches a distinction without a difference, or at least without a meaningful one.

honestly, i really don't feel any better knowing that comey merely violated a "norm" instead of a "policy".

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,831 posts)
6. If you're interested in what the OLC memos said, here's a reference:
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:05 PM
May 2019
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/2000/10/31/op-olc-v024-p0222_0.pdf

The difference, I think, is that the memos set forth in great detail, and on the basis of extensive research, the reasons for the conclusion that a sitting president can't be indicted. The FBI "norm" is just something they always did, more or less by consensus and without analysis. After reading both the OLC memos and the Mueller report, I can state with confidence that Mueller did not go beyond the conclusions of the memos.
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