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applegrove

(118,718 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 03:43 AM Jun 2019

ICE now wants to DNA test as many as 100,000 migrants based on 'fake families' claims

ICE now wants to DNA test as many as 100,000 migrants based on 'fake families' claims

Daily Los Staff

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1861496

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The Trump administration has gone from wanting to DNA test some families at the southern border to wanting to DNA test as many as 100,000 migrants, Mother Jonesreports. The reasoning is that the testing is required due to grossly exaggerated administration claims, notably from former Homeland Security Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen, that individuals are posing as “fake families” with “recycled” kids in order to cross the border.

“The tests are voluntary,” Mother Jones continues, “so migrants whom ICE suspects of posing as families will only be tested if they consent. But the contracting documents suggest that parents would be more likely to be temporarily separated from their children if they do not submit to the test.” And if tests are voluntary, why are officials asking for 100,000 tests? And how will agents obtain consent, when many asylum-seekers speak indigenous languages and Homeland Security has still not done enough to provide interpretation services?

Just as importantly, what will happen to families in which the adult caring for the child or children is perhaps an aunt or grandparent? “Because only parents or legal guardians and their children count as families under ICE’s standards, migrants traveling with siblings and grandchildren under 18 may have been included in the fraud statistics.”

In reality, “the government’s own data shows that fraud cases at the border are rare,” Mother Jones said, with no clear indication if some of those supposed “fraudulent” cases were actually families related in other ways than parent and child.  Perhaps to offset outrage, the administration claims “DNA data collected by ICE will be destroyed after the tests are conducted, and the agency will not build a database of people’s DNA.” Right, because it’s not like the government already had a secret database of immigration activists and journalists or anything.


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How about using that money to test the backlog of rape kits instead?

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ICE now wants to DNA test as many as 100,000 migrants based on 'fake families' claims (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2019 OP
They cant keep track of people so how are they going to keep track of records? TeamPooka Jun 2019 #1
Consent is bullshit Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #2
How about using that money to reunite the stolen children with their parents? nt pnwmom Jun 2019 #3
250,000 to 400,000 rape kits remain untested nationwide. Iterate Jun 2019 #4
Does Trump, or one of his contributors, own a DNA testing lab? sop Jun 2019 #5
+1 treestar Jun 2019 #6

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
2. Consent is bullshit
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:33 AM
Jun 2019

The people who separated you from your children tell you to have blood drawn voluntarily. If there is any chance not complying would harm your chances to be reunited you will comply

Physical torture would not be more effective in forcing compliance.

Some kangaroo court immigration judge might say this is ok, but no legitimate judge would. That’s how far we have fallen.

The forced separation of families seeking asylum is a crime against humanity. There should be international sanctions against the US followed by trials and convictions

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
4. 250,000 to 400,000 rape kits remain untested nationwide.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:18 AM
Jun 2019

That number is a guess, because not all states even keep an accurate, public count (it's all state-by-state).

It is clear though that the number of untested kits is down from what it was in 2009, in large part due to the funding and activities of non-profits. That's right, private funding is needed to enforce and prosecute state laws, and no one seems to think that's unacceptable.

But if Miller hatches a grievance and a shitter plan, it can happen.

sop

(10,208 posts)
5. Does Trump, or one of his contributors, own a DNA testing lab?
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:40 AM
Jun 2019

Former Florida Gov. Rick Scott, now Senator Rick Scott (R-Fl), required drug testing for welfare recipients and state employees. Suspiciously, the testing was done by a company co-founded by Scott, and owned by his wife.

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