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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:18 PM Jun 2019

Temperature passes 50 Celsius in northern India

Jesus Christ

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/india-weather-temperature-passes-50c-celsius-in-northern-india/news-story/0985e58e9ded4524fe586312b5154aef

Temperatures passed 50 degrees Celsius in northern India as an unrelenting heatwave triggered warnings of water shortages and heatstroke.

The thermometer hit 50.6 degrees Celsius in the Rajasthan desert city of Churu over the weekend, the weather department said.

All of Rajasthan suffered in severe heat with several cities hitting maximum temperatures above 47 Celsius.

The Indian Meteorological Department said severe heat could stay for up to a week across Rajasthan, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh states.


The affected area is roughly the population of all of North America.
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Temperature passes 50 Celsius in northern India (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2019 OP
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #1
122 F? NBD, just flip on the AC. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #2
there are so many people there who don't even have adequate houses, no power, etc. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #13
you got that right maxsolomon Jun 2019 #22
That is what has happened all of history. Blue_true Jun 2019 #23
Christ. 123 degrees Fahrenheit. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #3
My friends in Gujarat say the asphalt is liquid Recursion Jun 2019 #4
Those poor people. The heat will end up causing countless deaths there. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #6
It's barely June spinbaby Jun 2019 #5
The rains come in July, and temperatures drop about 20 degrees Recursion Jun 2019 #7
OK, so it drops to 102 shanti Jun 2019 #20
122 degrees Fahrenheit. procon Jun 2019 #8
I wait till dusk to go get our mail from the box. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #14
I usually wait until dusk or early dawn to go outside, procon Jun 2019 #15
Climate change and climate refugees RT Atlanta Jun 2019 #9
I remember a few days at 120 degrees F. in California MineralMan Jun 2019 #10
Hmmm...what, I wonder, is the minimum softening point of asphalt roads... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #25
Yes, it varies. MineralMan Jun 2019 #26
And this will be the norm. BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #11
That's 123 degrees F. That is muthafukkin hot !!!! ananda Jun 2019 #12
On the plus side... Xolodno Jun 2019 #16
l have been In Punjab when it was that hot. Was one of the worst experiences of my life. OregonBlue Jun 2019 #17
I got married in India matt819 Jun 2019 #18
Oh, my. The human body cannot take very high Hortensis Jun 2019 #19
And hotter days means strain on the electric system dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #28
:) I'm down here also and could die without. Of course, occasional Hortensis Jun 2019 #29
I've been in that kind of heat with humidity ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #21
That is horrific mcar Jun 2019 #24
Dang, that is over 122 degrees fahreheit - hotter than Death Valley gohuskies Jun 2019 #27

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
2. 122 F? NBD, just flip on the AC.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jun 2019

Oh, that's right. They don't burn the atmosphere at the same rate we do.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. there are so many people there who don't even have adequate houses, no power, etc.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jun 2019

Just watched a documentary showing how the really poor live in hovels, with sheets of rusted tin roofs, which may or may not leak,
about 10 feet from the train tracks.
Miles of tiny one room hovels by the tracks. the trains go by every 10 minutes, and most families live like that for decades.

can't imagine being in 123 temps in those conditions. there's gonna be a high mortality rate.

when they talk about climate refugees, this is gonna be part of the problem.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
22. you got that right
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 08:15 PM
Jun 2019

when the equatorial zones become uninhabitable, they're coming north. millions and millions of climate refugees.

then the real nationalism will start. i'm glad i'll be dead.

highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
6. Those poor people. The heat will end up causing countless deaths there.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jun 2019

I can't imagine heat so bad it turns asphalt liquid. I think it's horrible here if it gets so hot that asphalt softens.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. The rains come in July, and temperatures drop about 20 degrees
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

Going to be a long month until then, though.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. 122 degrees Fahrenheit.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

I live in the California western edge of the Mojave desert where summer temps have reached 119. That's damned hot!

If I dare to walk outside to go pick up the mail I use a big umbrella and wear a huge white cotton kaftan that covers me from head to toe. Just breathing in that super hot air is painful and feels like my lungs are being roasted from the inside. There's no humidity, it's in single digits.

The mucous membranes in my nose and mouth get sucked dry in minutes. My nose dry out and starts to crack, then I get nose bleeds. My mouth gets so dry my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth. My lips are dry and starting to crack. The air shimmers in the heat and I can feel the soles of my feet getting hotter with each step.

Once back in the house -- thanks to whoever invented air conditioning! -- I immediately take a cold shower to cool down my outside. Then drink some ice water to cool down my core temp.

Those people who live countries where climate change is making their lives untenable will someday by forced to migrate in search of a more habitable area conducive to human life.

No country is prepared for what's coming.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. I wait till dusk to go get our mail from the box.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jun 2019

today it is 97F. 3rd week of above 90. Heat index is very high.
Like you, I wear long lightweight caftans, because they are very very cool, and protect from sun damage.
when the sun hits the skin, it is actually painful.

good news....no rain for weeks means no mosquitoes. sigh.

I am wondering how long electric grids can handle the A/C demands down here. Most of the South is just baking.

as you said, number of climate refugees is gonna be massive, between the disappearing coasts in any countries, esp. areas like Bangladesh, and the interior heat waves, there is gonna be a lot of them.

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. I usually wait until dusk or early dawn to go outside,
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jun 2019

but sometimes I have no choice. If I have an expected delivery, like meds or something that might not survive the heat, then there's just no way around it.

When the temps are that high I don't even let my dog go outside in midday if I can avoid it. She would go with me if I let her, but the ground is so hot I worry she'll hurt her paws. My kitties are quite content to sit on the back of the sofa and look outside. I worry about all the beasties, too, domestic and wild, that can't escape the heat.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
9. Climate change and climate refugees
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jun 2019

As the planet heats up/dries out, parts of the world that are currently inhabited will become (are becoming now!) uninhabitable. This will lead to climate refugees and put strains on the existing political/social infrastructure across the globe.

We can attempt to shut the borders and keep people out or welcome with open arms.

I send my positive vibes to the families living through that heat wave and hope they can find some respite.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
10. I remember a few days at 120 degrees F. in California
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jun 2019

and Arizona. The asphalt did get soft. It was very, very hot, and we had no air conditioning. That was in the 1950s when I was a child.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. Hmmm...what, I wonder, is the minimum softening point of asphalt roads...
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jun 2019

(dashes over to Wiki)....
not all road surfaces are made of the same type of asphalt, or tarmac, which means the temperature at which roads melt varies.


I can envision a whole new problem for warmer temps.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
26. Yes, it varies.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

Our street in St. Paul, MN was chip-sealed a couple of years ago. When the temps get above 90 degrees, the asphalt bubbles up through the layer of rock chips if the sun's shining. The actual street temperature is well over 100 degrees, I'm sure.

We have to change our dog walking route to avoid having the dogs cross the street during those times.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
11. And this will be the norm.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jun 2019

I am glad I won't live much longer and don't have kids...the future looks pretty bleak.

Xolodno

(6,396 posts)
16. On the plus side...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jun 2019

...my electric Jacuzzi won't require as much juice to heat up and if want to retire close to the equator, land will be cheap.

Just in case....

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
17. l have been In Punjab when it was that hot. Was one of the worst experiences of my life.
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:26 PM
Jun 2019

Tempers are very frayed and the heat is relentless day and night. Most riots I India take place just before the rains.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Oh, my. The human body cannot take very high
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jun 2019

temperatures that don't drop overnight to give relief for over about 4 days for healthy people. In India, many are expected to work outside for long hours through summer heat, and inside without AC.

I know a bit about this because an autoimmune disorder means my organ systems would start shutting down and I would collapse far more quickly than most. In 1995 a killer heat wave that didn't cool off hit Chicago, and the city wasn't just unprepared for it but had no idea just how badly people would be hurt. I think the mayor left town unconcerned. Although the surprise deaths were initially unknown and uncounted, and then hidden, hundreds died. Mostly only fragile people who were particularly vulnerable because that event passed.

But here in the U.S., and there will be more and far worse. Many millions now live where life is not sustainable for long without AC and running water. Imagine a regional grid going and staying down in August anywhere in the continental states...



https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/eric-klinenberg-heat-wave-1995-humanities-festival/Content?oid=19609800

Can Chicago take another heat wave?
Twenty years after Chicago's deadly 1995 heat wave, the man who wrote the book on the disaster says the city is—and isn’t—prepared for another

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. And hotter days means strain on the electric system
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jun 2019

and A/C units, resulting in power outages. Most people will not do well down here without A/C.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. :) I'm down here also and could die without. Of course, occasional
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jun 2019

outages due to overload are not the big threat. They could start rationing power in various ways. Some could make overdue visits to relatives. Some have shaded homes and ones that aren't too airtight to live in without HVAC.

At least there's plenty of water near us now in Georgia. Not like urban Southern California, where the nearest water was a reservoir a couple hours' walk away, already guarded with razor wire when we lived there and no doubt if it happened immediately guarded by troops prepared to kill to protect it. Whoops -- googled, and that one's empty.

Second week and intensifying before it's expected to ease. I wanted to see but missed a program showing a lone woman announcing happily that she's moving to India. Envy her adventure, but not the enormous problems of that region.

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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. I've been in that kind of heat with humidity
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jun 2019

Dhahran Saudi Arabia. Nasty, nasty, nasty weather! The construction workers (Indian and Pakistani) would wear long sleeve shirts and balaclavas to protect them from the sun. I have no idea how they managed to do it.

mcar

(42,337 posts)
24. That is horrific
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jun 2019

Deadly temperatures and summer is just beginning.

Here in Central Florida, it's already in the high 90s with high humidity and little rain. I think this planet is in for a dangerous summer. Mother Nature has warned us.

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
27. Dang, that is over 122 degrees fahreheit - hotter than Death Valley
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jun 2019

Climate change is for real and we're doing everything to make our civilization extinct along with just about every other species

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