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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:43 AM Jun 2019

Nadler Pushes Impeachment To Centralize Investigations Into Trump


By Kate Riga
June 7, 2019 7:56 am

At a meeting of Democratic heavy-hitters this week, House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) pushed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on impeachment, eliciting her “prison” comment heard ’round the world.

But in new details reported by CNN, Nadler crafted his pitch around two central points. One, that impeachment proceedings would centralize the investigations into President Donald Trump and his administration currently sprawled across multiple committees, keeping it all contained within Judiciary.

Second, Nadler argued that procedurally, it’s easy to get information and ask questions during impeachment proceedings than in regular House committee sessions.

Pelosi was joined in her disapproval by Intel Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), who doesn’t want to lose his current important position in probing Trump’s actions.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/nadler-impeachment-pelosi-schiff
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Nadler Pushes Impeachment To Centralize Investigations Into Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
Sounds like Nadler was making a power play nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #1
Can Nadler open an inquiry on his own? Irishxs Jun 2019 #2
See link below: Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #3
Yes, he can, according to the Congressional Research Service StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #4
Jerry won't act independently of Pelosi, even if inclined to DFW Jun 2019 #5
He may choose not to do it for very good reason, but he has the power to start an inquiry on his own StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #6
Luckily he is not Mitch McTurtle DFW Jun 2019 #7
True! StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #9
Indeed. The Republicans would foam at the mouth if they thought of the correct adjective DFW Jun 2019 #11
Seven replies and only one is showing??? spanone Jun 2019 #8
You have them on ignore??? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #10

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
3. See link below:
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jun 2019

snipped:

"Nadler pressed Pelosi to allow his committee to launch an impeachment inquiry against Trump — the second such request he’s made in recent weeks only to be rebuffed by the California Democrat and other senior leaders. Pelosi stood firm, reiterating that she isn’t open to the idea of impeaching Trump at this time."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/pelosi-impeachment-1355435

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. Yes, he can, according to the Congressional Research Service
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jun 2019
"Under modern practice, the House Judiciary Committee is charged with investigating any impeachment questions. The committee chair could undertake such an activity either on his or her own, in response to an introduced and referred resolution, or in response to a vote of the full House."

The Role of the House of Representatives in Judicial Impeachment Proceedings: Procedure, Practice, and Data (Updated April 4, 2011), p. 12. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R41110


There are likely very valid reasons Nadler prefers to defer to the Speaker's wishes, but he does actually have the authority to start an impeachment inquiry on his own, without the Speaker's permission.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
5. Jerry won't act independently of Pelosi, even if inclined to
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jun 2019

He will not risk an open rift in the Democratic House leadership that the Republicans can exploit and divide them. He'll make his views known, back them up (Jerry is thorough), and defer to Pelosi's final say.

Just because he CAN divide the caucus, that doesn't mean he will. Jerry knows as well as anyone that breaking up the Democratic majority in the House is the one thing that will save the worst Republicans from the risk of incarceration, and he is the last one to want to endanger that effort.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. He may choose not to do it for very good reason, but he has the power to start an inquiry on his own
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jun 2019

I'm not arguing that he should - I don't think he should. But the question was whether he has the power and the answer to that is yes.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
7. Luckily he is not Mitch McTurtle
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jun 2019

McTurtle will undertake any action he thinks he can, the more evil, the better (he must have been the nerdy smart kid who was bullied when he was little to harbor such hate for so long).

Jerry will think his moves out, and do what is most effective, not necessarily coinciding with what he has the power to do.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. True!
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jun 2019

And that's how Pelosi is approaching this, as well. The kind of measured, thoughtful, strategic approach is exactly what we need from Pelosi, Nadler, et al, in this complicated battle.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
11. Indeed. The Republicans would foam at the mouth if they thought of the correct adjective
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

A measured, thoughtful, strategic approach--they very definition (in English, anyway) of....CONSERVATIVE

(Can you hear them? "no, no, no, them folks is LIBBRULS!!" )

Of course, in Foxese and Republicanese, the word means something entirely different.

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