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Mueller: Everyone lied to me and withheld from me. (Original Post) triron Jun 2019 OP
Looks like republicans plan to continue pissing on the Ten Commandments Achilleaze Jun 2019 #1
Which in turn brings up the question gratuitous Jun 2019 #2
Agree. Do you think the answer is "Barr shut us down."? spooky3 Jun 2019 #3
I do. n/t kag Jun 2019 #10
Looks like pandr32 Jun 2019 #13
I think Barr did shut them down. japple Jun 2019 #26
That answer def. gets my vote. tosh Jun 2019 #32
Mueller has given us much more than a first draft of many stories. empedocles Jun 2019 #4
Agree - the report was more like a set of possible plot-lines for a lot of detective novels erronis Jun 2019 #19
Barr needs to be indicted and impeached gopiscrap Jun 2019 #5
Maybe Rosenstein, too. (the indicted part) Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #7
... power to indict them for crimes that will send them to prison. Not sure congress has that power erronis Jun 2019 #22
Kompromat, Trumpromat Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #28
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #17
We need to " tar Barr". Alwaysna Jun 2019 #24
And dump trump Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #29
I like that gopiscrap Jun 2019 #30
When Mueller testifies that's one of the questions that must be asked. shockey80 Jun 2019 #6
I'm not sure he's going to testify. Will the Dems force him to? jalan48 Jun 2019 #9
I hope so. shockey80 Jun 2019 #12
rump and his minions obstructed justice and it worked. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #11
Most people will not do that. shockey80 Jun 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #16
The American people have always been a slumbering people. shockey80 Jun 2019 #18
Seth Abramson? Maybe we need a special forum for Hortensis Jun 2019 #15
It's there on page 10 FakeNoose Jun 2019 #20
Thank you for your callouts. erronis Jun 2019 #23
Mueller NEVER SAID THAT, though. It's wrong to make up Hortensis Jun 2019 #27
but half-truths are OK, if you're on OUR side stopdiggin Jun 2019 #21
+1. At its best. Hortensis Jun 2019 #35
Why do people have to exaggerate so much? former9thward Jun 2019 #25
+1. I don't think most people want to hear the truth of the Mueller report. Hoyt Jun 2019 #33
Mueller is a Rethuglican and a war criminal. MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #31
knr Baltimike Jun 2019 #34

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Which in turn brings up the question
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jun 2019

Then why did Mueller end his investigation? It clearly sounds like it was incomplete. It brings up some questions that the former special counsel ought to answer publicly.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
19. Agree - the report was more like a set of possible plot-lines for a lot of detective novels
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jun 2019

as well as a lot of documentaries, murder mysteries, how-to-con cheat sheets.

I hope free printing presses (and the internet) can stay alive to publish the "final story".

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
7. Maybe Rosenstein, too. (the indicted part)
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jun 2019

I don't know. We don't know.

We won't know until these people are more afraid of Congress than they are of Trump.

Look at it this way. Trump may have the power to ruin them in the eyes of the country with Kompromat of his making. But he doesn't have the power to indict them for crimes that will send them to prison.

But Congress does.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
22. ... power to indict them for crimes that will send them to prison. Not sure congress has that power
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jun 2019

since half of it has toadied up to the crooks.

If the total disregard for the rule of law and due process is ignored by the executive branch, who can enforce?

Response to gopiscrap (Reply #5)

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
6. When Mueller testifies that's one of the questions that must be asked.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jun 2019

Who lied, who destroyed evidence and was this a factor in not charging anyone with conspiracy. Boom!

Response to triron (Original post)

Response to shockey80 (Reply #14)

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
18. The American people have always been a slumbering people.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jun 2019

You have to show them before they wake up.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Seth Abramson? Maybe we need a special forum for
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jun 2019

"sources" whose perambulations between fact and conspiracism are too erratic to just delete references.

I find no quote from Mueller to validate that title, not exactly btw.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Mueller NEVER SAID THAT, though. It's wrong to make up
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jun 2019

fake quotes and attribute them to him. Yes, all the Fake Newsers out there do it all the time, and maybe Abramson plays this dishonest game all the time and pretends it's just a literary device, no one's actually supposed to believe it, but that hardly makes it okay.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
21. but half-truths are OK, if you're on OUR side
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jun 2019

Good point. Ridicule and condemn all the conspiracy flamers on the right .. and then re-tweet all the half-baked crap with a sexy headline we can find on the left. "EVERYONE LIED" Really? It's not just sloppy journalism, it's sloppy thinking.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
25. Why do people have to exaggerate so much?
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:24 PM
Jun 2019

Page 10 doe snot say what the OP says. It says some witnesses gave false statements and that led to charges. It does not say "Everyone lied to me and withheld from me" or anything even slightly close to it.

page 10: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
31. Mueller is a Rethuglican and a war criminal.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jun 2019

That was settled history on DU until just two or three years ago.

He was probably in on the lies too. They're all corrupt.

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