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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:47 PM Jun 2019

Will America survive Trump?

If he's not impeached, or orders martial law, or launches our nuclear arsenal, or is beaten in 2020 and refuses to leave, what do we do?

To begin with, I don't think the military will follow orders regarding a nuclear launch, nor, depending on the circumstances, would implement martial law.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff are as aware as the rest of us that Trump is unhinged.

But there's the problem.

If the don't obey nuclear launch orders, or martial law, who's in charge?

If he loses in 2020 the Secret Service can legally drag him from the White House.

But what about martial law or a nuclear launch?

It's a question I've thought about a lot.

Do you have an answer?

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Will America survive Trump? (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2019 OP
Who knows - my expectation is when the noose tightens he will start another bogus war. Then walkingman Jun 2019 #1
Frankly my concern HopeAgain Jun 2019 #2
Those are great questions... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2019 #3
Yes. bearsfootball516 Jun 2019 #4
Yes. Kaleva Jun 2019 #5
We'll survive BUT Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #6
Then the answer is America will not survive Cyrano Jun 2019 #7
Yeah, it'll be a country we don't recognize. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #8
You can't go home again. kskiska Jun 2019 #9
I'm not optimistic. Too much stupidity and apathy. Va Lefty Jun 2019 #10
Of course we will. Relax. virgogal Jun 2019 #11
Continuity In Government Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #12
America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Jun 2019 #13
Trump is a symptom. The Kochs and the NRA are the disease. Initech Jun 2019 #14

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
1. Who knows - my expectation is when the noose tightens he will start another bogus war. Then
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jun 2019

expect a barrage of "Support the Troops" and the rest of the stuff that goes along with it. America loves its wars.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
2. Frankly my concern
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jun 2019

Is beating him in 2020. That would depend on a fair and untainted election as well as enough Americans doing the right thing to make the electoral college work for the right result.

I am totally just afraid of 2016 repeating itself.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,736 posts)
3. Those are great questions...
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jun 2019

First question...YES! We will survive this as we survive any disaster...we will to the best of our collective abilities come together and fix what is broken. This may take more time than some have stomach for but it will get fixed with a strong leader...(president)...that’s up to us...fight.

Leaving office...
I really don’t think we have to worry....well maybe just a little...even though there is no precedent... people in the know have thought this out.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-refuse-leave-office-nixon-cohen-white-house-a8814991.html

Pushing buttons...
While in service I worked in nuclear weapons, please believe the “conditions” must all add up before any button is pushed. Flights of fancy are accounted for. UCMJ covers illegal orders.

Now as for whose in charge?...all I have is “line of succession”.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
6. We'll survive BUT
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jun 2019

if he gets two terms, the federal judiciary and Supreme Court will be stacked with right wingers who will look to roll back all progress made in the last 100 years.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
7. Then the answer is America will not survive
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jun 2019

Not is any sense that we today call America

Looks like the South won the Civil War after all.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
9. You can't go home again.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jun 2019

Especially after what we're going through. The Deplorables have been let out of their cages.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
12. Continuity In Government
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:09 PM
Jun 2019

The rank and file pledge allegiance to the Constitution.

As much as Trump tries, he can’t corrupt them all.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
14. Trump is a symptom. The Kochs and the NRA are the disease.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jun 2019

Thankfully the NRA is losing its muster. But to get rid of the virus known as Charles and David Koch is a completely different ordeal altogether. They have far more influence in politics and economics than the NRA does and it's going to take a lot to rid ourselves of them.

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