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babylonsister

(171,072 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:40 AM Jun 2019

House Dems Fear Retaliation as They Ready Investigation of Elaine Chao


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House Dems Fear Retaliation as They Ready Investigation of Elaine Chao
A probe into the transportation secretary now seems inevitable. But some lawmakers are scared about what that means for infrastructure projects in their districts.
Erin Banco
National Security Reporter
Sam Brodey
Congressional Reporter
Updated 06.14.19 3:13AM ET / Published 06.13.19 10:15AM ET


House Democrats are poised to launch an investigation into the Department of Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao over allegations that she used her position to advance the interests of her family and her husband’s political career.

But even as some members of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee say such a probe is inevitable, other Democratic lawmakers have expressed doubts about whether the current evidence is sufficient to warrant it, according to three lawmakers with direct knowledge of the conversations that have taken place over the last several days. And some lawmakers who spoke to The Daily Beast expressed unease—at this time—at calling out the secretary for fear that doing so would affect their ability to advance infrastructure projects in their home districts.

Such hesitation reflects both the unique status Chao enjoys within the Trump administration—where she has heavy sway over federal funds that politicians of all stripes covet—and the wider conundrum that Democrats lawmakers face in going after the president’s team. With aggressive oversight efforts already launched into several other Trump Cabinet officials, senior Democratic aides say a sense of fatigue has set in among members, one that’s been exacerbated by the difficulty the party has had in making progress on already-launched investigative efforts.

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Rep. Peter DeFazio, the chairman of the House transportation committee, noted that his committee has a full oversight plate—dominated at the moment by probes into the Boeing 737-Max passenger plane. But the Oregon Democrat also told The Daily Beast on Wednesday that his panel is having conversations about an inquiry into Chao.

“We were generally going to review how they do grants because they’ve been slow-walking transit grants around the country,” he said. “I think now we will expand the scope to look at other grants that are at secretarial discretion, and what documentation they may have for such grants.”


Conversations about opening such an investigation have been ongoing on Capitol Hill over the last four days. And on Wednesday night, Rep. Sean Maloney (D-NY), who sits on DeFazio’s committee, said members would investigate Chao.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/elaine-chao-investigation-house-dems-seems-poised-to-launch-one-even-as-they-fear-retribution
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House Dems Fear Retaliation as They Ready Investigation of Elaine Chao (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2019 OP
What "infrastructure projects" are they afraid of losing? Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #1
Here's one example (from this article): babylonsister Jun 2019 #5
I have to admit that locally we've actually had some projects OK'd... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #9
That's my Congressman JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #33
They need to stop coddling these criminals and provide the oversight Americans voted for Snake Plissken Jun 2019 #2
Who is 'coddling these criminals?' (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #31
"A sense of fatigue" awesomerwb1 Jun 2019 #3
WHAT????? spanone Jun 2019 #4
Why Is It When It Comes To The Daily Beast ...And Politico Me. Jun 2019 #6
This is pretty much how we talk about them here too. Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #13
With all due respect, it's not just The Daily Beast and Politico. It's trending all over Social Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #32
That's True However.... Me. Jun 2019 #42
I know, right? ehrnst Jun 2019 #38
Her time in the barrel is coming, even though long overdue. Chao is most vulnerable re :: MFGsunny Jun 2019 #7
This is war. MontanaMama Jun 2019 #8
+1 2naSalit Jun 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #35
Why live in fear? dalton99a Jun 2019 #11
*What* retribution? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #12
Bingo dalton99a Jun 2019 #14
No, squashing transportation projects in States where Reps come out in favor or engage in KPN Jun 2019 #20
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #27
Agree. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #25
Arrrgggg! Faux pas Jun 2019 #15
Dems are going to have to start saying "we serve at the pleasure of the president" rainin Jun 2019 #16
Those first three words are the main problem! FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #17
+1 superpatriotman Jun 2019 #39
WTF is wrong with these people? As long as Mitch is in charge, nothing they pass in the House Vinca Jun 2019 #18
Not true when it comes to infrastructure projects StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #21
"Democrats" and "Fear" should not be uttered in the same breath. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #19
Damn straight, NRaleighLiberal. Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #23
+1 dalton99a Jun 2019 #26
+1 Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #36
For rear of retribution, for fear we may not win in 2020, for fear of............fill in the blanks. Firestorm49 Jun 2019 #22
From 'Yes, Prime Minister' (1986) FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #40
+1000 Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #45
Thing is, there has to be a decision. One or the other. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #24
Turtle Boy is preventing any legislation from being considered by the Senate anyhow, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #28
if you don't want to ask tough questions rampartc Jun 2019 #29
Oh, ffs. GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #34
People are afraid, GoCubs, so they make tough noise Hortensis Jun 2019 #48
I believe JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #37
"Cocaine Chao's " sheshe2 Jun 2019 #44
To those fearful Dems shanti Jun 2019 #41
I'm so damn tired of all the stories about Dems being "afraid." It's BS. CaptainTruth Jun 2019 #43
When Pelosi said "he's just not worth it", a logical response would be what do you Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #47
How about being more angry than afraid? Could we try that? ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #46

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
1. What "infrastructure projects" are they afraid of losing?
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jun 2019

Seems like the Secretary has her thumb on the scale as it is, and calling her out on it would provide leverage for her to be more fair in her decisions.

Let's make sure she knows that somebody is watching.

babylonsister

(171,072 posts)
5. Here's one example (from this article):
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:50 AM
Jun 2019
Not everyone is content to let Chao skate by without additional scrutiny. Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ), a freshman who has been vocally pressing the administration to fund the Gateway Project, a massive initiative that would make badly needed repairs to the bridges and tunnels that link New York City and northern New Jersey, was highly critical of what he said was preferential treatment for McConnell’s projects by the DOT.

“I just found it strange that no senior official at the Department of Transportation has been appointed to help me get transportation grants of special significance to New Jersey,” Malinowski told The Daily Beast. “It must be an oversight.”

Malinowski declined to call on DeFazio to open up a probe into Chao, but said it would be worth the committee’s time to learn more about “any special treatment or favoritism being shown to any state because of politics or nepotism.”

“We need to understand it,” he said, “and it’s got to stop.”

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
9. I have to admit that locally we've actually had some projects OK'd...
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jun 2019

by the administration over the last couple of years. Was a little surprised, since we're a pretty blue state (WA).

But "we got ours" is no reason to support bad conduct elsewhere. There looks to be some serious malfeasance going on there.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
33. That's my Congressman
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jun 2019

I will be the town hall on June 30 - and that's my question. Infrastructure Rail and Road including buses from rural areas.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
2. They need to stop coddling these criminals and provide the oversight Americans voted for
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jun 2019

The excuses to keep from going after these criminals are getting beyond ridiculous.

Response to Snake Plissken (Reply #2)

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
3. "A sense of fatigue"
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jun 2019

Is understandable. Now when a little "fatigue" is setting in, imagine knocking on doors for 8 hours a day to get you re-elected. Working the phones for hours a day to get you re-elected. Contributing money that you had saved for a vacation to get you re-elected. Making calls to other Reps or Senators to get proper representation.

Still a little "fatigued"? Deal with it - like we're all trying to do unless you can't stand the heat - and do your job.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Why Is It When It Comes To The Daily Beast ...And Politico
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jun 2019

Dems are always described as afraid, scared and other such negative descriptions? WE have constant negative connotations about the Dem from both. And Michelle Goldberg, another DB writer is rather vicious when discussing the Dems on MSNBC. How about they use words like cautious, judicious, prudent, or pragmatic when describing a situation like this. After all, the Dems are choosing to open this investigation.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
13. This is pretty much how we talk about them here too.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:07 AM
Jun 2019

In some cases, it might be true. Other cases, not. Some publications surely want to play it up.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
32. With all due respect, it's not just The Daily Beast and Politico. It's trending all over Social
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jun 2019

Media, Twitter, Cable News, other print media, etc.

GMAB, "fatigue"?!?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
42. That's True However....
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jun 2019

Those two, along with the Hill, have been really pushing it lately. And as I said, Ms. Goldberg of DB fame has been having nearly an everyday rant about impeachment lately.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
7. Her time in the barrel is coming, even though long overdue. Chao is most vulnerable re ::
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

her KY fast-tracking (sleezy) while being dormant (sleezy) elsewhere.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
8. This is war.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

There will retaliation and that shouldn’t be a reason to not provide oversight Congress is required to do. I want to see them put their heads down, auger in and follow the law wherever it leads. The pukes are counting on our fear to let them continue their crimes.

Response to MontanaMama (Reply #8)

KPN

(15,646 posts)
20. No, squashing transportation projects in States where Reps come out in favor or engage in
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

investigations of Chao. Transportation projects are big money and have huge impacts on local/State economies.

But Dems need to do what is right regardless of circumstances or potential retribution. Doing otherwise is just allowing hostage taking to work. It's caving to extortion. When we do that, we are no different than a banana republic or today's post-Soviet Russia.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
27. I agree
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jun 2019

Dems need to press forward and if they pull something, remind people who's doing it. Haven't read the article but does it *really* look like they'll cave on it?

Lonestarblue

(10,012 posts)
25. Agree.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:19 PM
Jun 2019

McConnell has obstructed anything positive for the past 10 years. He is fast tracking incompetent right-wing judges and refusing to bring any bills to a vote. What else can he do to Democrats?

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
18. WTF is wrong with these people? As long as Mitch is in charge, nothing they pass in the House
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jun 2019

is going anywhere in the Senate anyway. They're starting to look like a bunch of wimps. History books will not be kind.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
21. Not true when it comes to infrastructure projects
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019

Those usually get approved at the department level once Congress passes the authorizations.

And this isn't on the Democratic House members. Just wait. The minute those projects start to dry up, it's the constituents - including a lot of Democrats - who will be screaming the loudest. That doesn't mean they shouldn't move forward, but they're aware of the potential impact on their constituents and are rightly being careful in how they proceed.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
19. "Democrats" and "Fear" should not be uttered in the same breath.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

If our current elected Dems are cowering before these criminals, we need new, courageous Dems.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
22. For rear of retribution, for fear we may not win in 2020, for fear of............fill in the blanks.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019

We're not playing with kids. It's showdown time and Republicans must be laughing their asses off at how sheepish we are, and they don't give a crap.

I sure will rue the day when I hear; "We should have done more."

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
40. From 'Yes, Prime Minister' (1986)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

Bernard Woolley:
What if the Prime Minister insists we help them?

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Then we follow the four-stage strategy.

Bernard Woolley:
What's that?

Sir Richard Wharton:
Standard Foreign Office response in a time of crisis.

Sir Richard Wharton:
In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.

Sir Richard Wharton:
In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we *can* do.

Sir Humphrey Appleby:
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
24. Thing is, there has to be a decision. One or the other.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jun 2019

Either all regular work stops and all hands on deck to first rid the ship of the pirates that have invaded, or ignore it and pretend its not happening and instead try and sit down and have discussions on repairing the sails, or the state of the mess with the pirates.

Then one day you have a mutiny, and democracy is gone for good. At least we got those sails fixed, which we'd never have gotten done if sailors and pirates didn't come together for those precious few minutes.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
28. Turtle Boy is preventing any legislation from being considered by the Senate anyhow,
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jun 2019

so how could it get any worse?

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
34. Oh, ffs.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 01:34 PM
Jun 2019

The republicans have no intention of passing any sort of infrastructure bill. They had how many fucking years in control of both houses of Congress with nothing passed? GMAFB. There will be nothing for which there will be any retaliation. Grow a fucking spine, already.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. People are afraid, GoCubs, so they make tough noise
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:53 PM
Jun 2019

and punch verbal walls. Not everyone has the spine for the long haul. But they're your fellow DUers, so maybe go gentle on them?

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
43. I'm so damn tired of all the stories about Dems being "afraid." It's BS.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:27 PM
Jun 2019

This is just more of the "Dems in disarray" BS we saw after the election.

Dems proceed in an intelligent, thoughtful, methodical fashion, conscious of all the factors involved, trying to ensure the best possible outcome for the American people, & the media says they're "afraid" because they don't just go charging in & shit all over the china shop.

Did I mention I'm tired of it?

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
47. When Pelosi said "he's just not worth it", a logical response would be what do you
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jun 2019

fear?!? What is not worth it?!?

Like it or not, tired or not tired, a lot of pp. are getting frustrated, disillusioned,etc. Every day you see someone giving us the latest #'s on which House Democrat is for or against. We hear about meetings, conference calls where Pelosi is telling Pro-impeachment Dems to hold the line.

The fact is we have mixed messaging from different Dems, no unified front, it's published that Nadler has asked Pelosi TWICE to say yes to Articles of Impeachment only to be shut down, no creative initiatives to educate the 21% of anti-impeachment Dems or the Independant Voters.

I wrote Pelosi twice after the Mueller Report originally came out and said why don't you see if DNC can hit up big donors to hit the airwaves with ads such as:

Reading each and every example of conman obstructing justice as outlined in Part 2 of Mueller report.

A solumn, serious ad bulleting every single time trump has witness tamperd, pardon dangled, advised his cohorts to defy House subpoenas, etc. Ending with the fact that if any of us regular folk broke norms, standards, values, the law, etc. etc. etc....we'd be behind bars or run out of town. That he thinks he and his cronies are above the law.

There are more creative pp. than myself that can do better than my examples. Many voters want concise, hard-hitting, factual soundbites...they are not going to read the Mueller report.

It's all poll driven, tea leaf reading, and putting their finger to the wind. If Pelosi really wanted Impeachment, they would be using whatever mechanism to sway those undecided to her side. Because doing the right thing is not enough apparently.

Instead, I hear crap like "he needs an intervention", "he's just not worth it", blah blah blah. Those comments read to me almost like a joke. This is dead serious business.

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