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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:04 PM Jun 2019

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0FbsrgsQjOVRZucyiMQLcXHBS90il2Qq8XBLo3oeMmNRNF_7M4P6TNjfA



Surely, the United States of America could not operate concentration camps. In the American consciousness, the term is synonymous with the Nazi death machines across the European continent that the Allies began the process of dismantling 75 years ago this month. But while the world-historical horrors of the Holocaust are unmatched, they are only the most extreme and inhuman manifestation of a concentration-camp system—which, according to Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition. There have been concentration camps in France, South Africa, Cuba, the Soviet Union, and—with Japanese internment—the United States. In fact, she contends we are operating such a system right now in response to a very real spike in arrivals at our southern border.

“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”

Historians use a broader definition of concentration camps, as well.

"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way.
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...in our name, this is taking place,
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An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 OP
How will Americans answer someday when they are asked about these camps and what they did to stop it Pachamama Jun 2019 #1
This bothers me too ravencalling Jun 2019 #7
Many of us gave this name to Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #2
"or undesirable in some way" - Trump thinks they are animals anyway. keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #3
Shame..that's what I feel. mountain grammy Jun 2019 #4
Out of sight, out of mind. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2019 #6
Die Moorsoldaten struggle4progress Jun 2019 #8

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. How will Americans answer someday when they are asked about these camps and what they did to stop it
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jun 2019

I remember when I was a child in Germany wondering how the people in my town didn't notice decades earlier during the war or do anything about the camp nearby.

I remember when I was an adult in Germany and my office was near a town named Dachau and I would meet colleagues at a Biergarten and I wondered the same again...

How did people not say or do anything?



ravencalling

(285 posts)
7. This bothers me too
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 02:07 AM
Jun 2019

With American's it may be about giving up their own comfort and or routine and of course just denial. After all we walk by the homeless. Those camps are absolutely concentration camps and children have died. We don't know the half of what they are suffering. I suppose in Germany if the citizens had gotten together to put an end to the camps they would be putting their own lives in danger. What about in America? So the question might be. Why didn't we rise up, storm those camps and put an end to it?

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
3. "or undesirable in some way" - Trump thinks they are animals anyway.
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jun 2019

"or undesirable in some way" -

Trump thinks they are animals anyway.

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