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Krugman; has the Gulf of Trumpkin incident receded from the top of the news unusually fast? (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 OP
the Gulf of Trumpkin incident? malaise Jun 2019 #1
yeah, thought so too! Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #2
Me too! ananda Jun 2019 #9
+++ hlthe2b Jun 2019 #5
No one even bothered to believe him for an instant. dawg day Jun 2019 #3
Let's face it, he had nothing to lose. dchill Jun 2019 #11
It's as if Bolton had said.... DFW Jun 2019 #4
Sadly they are fucking with the lives of millions of people malaise Jun 2019 #6
It is what dictatorial authoritarians do.. pangaia Jun 2019 #13
Jared and MBS are probably ... GeorgeGist Jun 2019 #7
We can be grateful for their ineptitude DFW Jun 2019 #8
Very true on the ineptitude. shanny Jun 2019 #12
Extremely nice wordsmithing! dchill Jun 2019 #10
Yes, It Didn't Work for Them! McKim Jun 2019 #14
Bwahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! zonkers Jun 2019 #15
Fool me once, Tonkin SCVDem Jun 2019 #16
They will keep throwing them at us until they appear to stick. Ford_Prefect Jun 2019 #17

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. No one even bothered to believe him for an instant.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:30 AM
Jun 2019

And Mike Pompeo has lost whatever meager credibility he still had... blaming every attack in the world on Iran the other day-- he made it all too plain Trump wants a fake war with Iran to divert everyone.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
4. It's as if Bolton had said....
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:34 AM
Jun 2019

"Alright, alright, so this one didn't work. Don't worry, I have more where that one came from."

malaise

(269,157 posts)
6. Sadly they are fucking with the lives of millions of people
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:52 AM
Jun 2019

These are the planet's real terrorists

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. It is what dictatorial authoritarians do..
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

Out of a myriad of information on different types of authoritarian states---

WIKI--

"Authoritarianism also tends to embrace the informal and unregulated exercise of political power, a leadership that is "self-appointed and even if elected cannot be displaced by citizens' free choice among competitors", the arbitrary deprivation of civil liberties and little tolerance for meaningful opposition.[10]"



Totalitarianism Authoritarianism

Charisma High Low
Role conception Leader as function Leader as individual
Ends of power Public Private
Corruption Low High
Official ideology Yes No
Limited pluralism No Yes
Legitimacy Yes No


The right side sure looks like we we have.


DFW

(54,437 posts)
8. We can be grateful for their ineptitude
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jun 2019

If this had been Cheney and Rumsfeld, the first body bags of our troops KIA would already be on the way home.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
12. Very true on the ineptitude.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jun 2019

However, I think even Cheney and Rumsfeld would have a problem getting away with it a second time. Our reputation is shot, not only at home and not only by rump.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
14. Yes, It Didn't Work for Them!
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jun 2019

Yes, it didn’t work for them. People are getting smarter but they aren’t. If they are so right why aren’t they continuing to justify their version of events? Look out for more attempts. We initiated and held a town hall here in Portland last night with our local US Representative. The Iranian American Community came to talk about the sanctions and the Muslim Travel Ban and how they were hurting their families and the threat of war. Everyone should do this all over the country. Don’t let them win. Our family lost a brother in Vietnam for a lie, don’t let it happen again!!!!!

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
17. They will keep throwing them at us until they appear to stick.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jun 2019

As they did in the media push leading up to Iraq they will overwhelm the MSM with as many memes as they can dish out until the simple effect of hearing of so many "events" will persuade people that "We need to do something NOW!"

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