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Fasten your seatbelts, kids; It's going to be a bumpy ride.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/18/arctic-permafrost-canada-science-climate-crisis
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)or nothing that is actually being done to slow the fallout such as permafrost thawing. First it has to be recognized as a serious problem before anything of substance can be done about it. drumpf the denier liar continues to hold office and spew his alternative science.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)What can be done at this point and what can we hope to accomplish.
theophilus
(3,750 posts)That would be relatively doable and not too expensive, or so I've been told. Now the problem is that fine fellows like Mr. Putin don't want no stinkin' ice in the arctic. It gets in the way. So, until we pull our collective heads out of our collective asses we are traveling down the road to extinction. The older rich dudes think that they will be dead before the real shit hits the fan. They are probably wrong but what difference will it make? The vast majority of folks are just goofing around trying to survive. They certainly are not paying attention. We had a pretty good run.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Do you know how much to put up there? Who will benefit the most, and the least? Will anyone be disadvantaged from doing this? How much is too little and how much is too much?
theophilus
(3,750 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)ongoing destruction of forests providing carbon dioxide to oxygen conversion, puts this planet in dire straits for which there appears to be no viable answer or solution.
https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/
theophilus
(3,750 posts)no immunity from to protect us. The earth will be rid of most of us due to a pestilence. Win/Win. We won't have to suffer all that long.
Or-
The coming nuclear war will set things right by putting all of our civilization up into the atmosphere. The earth will be fine in 20 or 30 million years. No sweat. (See what I did there?)
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)I would tell them the same that Frank Zappa said he would tell them.
Eradicate us.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)theophilus
(3,750 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)I guess they're too worried about their corporate sponsors bailing on them if they cover environmental issues.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I think we are all just whistling past the graveyard. Nobody can really deal with the enormity of it, so they choose to ignore it because they don't want to be the first to break the bad news. Either way, it's still going to happen. It's too late now.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The Canadians are freaking out about it and rightly so.
They showed how over the past 20 years, insurance claims for natural disasters have gone exponential.
misanthrope
(7,418 posts)She said they have started finding insect life previously unknown there, species more common to southern latitudes. Nature's migration tells the tale.