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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:05 PM Jun 2019

New York Times: We woulda, we coulda, we shoulda, but hey, we didn't, and sh*t happens. C'est la vie

“After an article last week reported the advice columnist E. Jean Carroll’s rape allegations against President Trump, some readers accused The Times of downplaying the story,” wrote staff editor Laura Takenaga. “Many have written to ask us why we didn’t give the allegations more attention on our website and in print … Some questioned whether the lack of prominence showed too much deference to the president’s denials, or whether it even suggested misogyny or an unwillingness to believe a victim’s account.”

“In The Times‘s reporting on the Weinstein and O’Reilly cases, editors developed an informal set of guidelines for when The Times would publish such allegations. Those guidelines include locating sources outside those mentioned by the accusers who not only corroborate the allegations but also are willing to go on the record,” stated the analysis. “But the Carroll story, Mr. (Executive editor Dean) Baquet said, was different because the allegations were already receiving broad attention, with New York Magazine publishing an excerpt from Ms. Carroll’s book detailing the incident.”

Ultimately, the Times concluded that the different circumstances of this case meant that it should have been covered more aggressively than it otherwise would have been.

“In retrospect, Mr. Baquet said, a key consideration was that this was not a case where we were surfacing our own investigation — the allegations were already being discussed by the public,” said the analysis. The fact that a well-known person was making a very public allegation against a sitting president ‘should’ve compelled us to play it bigger.'”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/new-york-times-admits-they-downplayed-the-rape-allegation-against-trump/
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New York Times: We woulda, we coulda, we shoulda, but hey, we didn't, and sh*t happens. C'est la vie (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2019 OP
Trump: mission accomplished TwilightZone Jun 2019 #1
They downplayed it to keep access to the White House. Scurrilous Jun 2019 #2
Yupper. Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #3
Derp shadowmayor Jun 2019 #4
But did they downplay Bill and Monica or Hillary and her emails? Botany Jun 2019 #5
thank you for that.. stillcool Jun 2019 #7
Lawrence O'Donnell, last week Miles Archer Jun 2019 #8
So it matters big-time that the woman is well-known? KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #6

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)
1. Trump: mission accomplished
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:26 PM
Jun 2019

Some of his primary goals: normalize abhorrent behavior, desensitize people to his constant barrage of crap, increase mistrust of the media, and put the media on the defensive.

In all of that, he has been successful. It's similar parts appalling and depressing.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
5. But did they downplay Bill and Monica or Hillary and her emails?
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jun 2019

Trump is on record as saying that he grabs women by the pussy and then just does what
he wants. E. Jean Carroll's story says that is what Trump did to her.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. Lawrence O'Donnell, last week
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 10:06 PM
Jun 2019

She was a guest on the show. He played a snippet of the Access Hollywood tape, she looked ill, and he said "That's basically the same way you described what he did to you" (not an exact quote, but close) and she concurred.

It was a brutal moment.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
6. So it matters big-time that the woman is well-known?
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jun 2019

That should not carry any weight whatsoever regarding publication decisions on a rape case directed at a sitting (or squatting) U.S. president.

The celebrity headline might sell more papers, but this is a case where responsibility and prudence matter much more.

KY....

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