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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:16 AM Jun 2019

No Splish spash for blacks suffering Southern Heat





When Americans try to beat the heat in the summertime, many find they have no municipal pool in which to swim—the result of deliberate choices made decades ago by white residents who preferred no public pool at all to an integrated one.

When American cities started building pools in the late nineteenth century, as geographer P. Caleb Smith writes, the pools were segregated by gender . That changed in 1913, when St. Louis opened the first gender-integrated pool. It was also the nation’s first municipal pool built in a city where African-Americans made up a large part of the population. Faced with the prospect of black and white men, women, and children swimming together, St. Louis instead put up a fence and stationed armed police to keep black people out.


https://daily.jstor.org/when-cities-closed-pools-to-avoid-integration/

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I live in a redneck area and wondered why there was no municipal pools in the area. I also remember a huge park in the Pittsburgh area we loved going to for its rides and huge pool. It was closed down when it was being forced to integrate.
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No Splish spash for blacks suffering Southern Heat (Original Post) packman Jun 2019 OP
Are there any public pools any more, anywhere? Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #1
Sure... We have several where I live thanks to Parks+Rec Dept. Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #2
We have some in our part of Southern California Codeine Jun 2019 #3
Anyone who swims in a pool should be informed. ooky Jun 2019 #9
I don't think it's actually dangerous or anything, Codeine Jun 2019 #10
The chemicals, properly administered, are what keep it from being nasty. ooky Jun 2019 #13
Do you drink water? W.C. Fields claimed he didn't, because Tanuki Jun 2019 #15
Lots of public pools in NC unc70 Jun 2019 #5
Chicago has public pools. LuvLoogie Jun 2019 #6
Around here, nearly every town of Bettie Jun 2019 #11
In my area you have to go to gym marlakay Jun 2019 #14
Are there some pools open in the winter too? mahina Jun 2019 #17
Because of weather all pools marlakay Jun 2019 #19
Oooooh! mahina Jun 2019 #20
I am here for whole summer marlakay Jun 2019 #21
Lucky lucky you! mahina Jun 2019 #23
Plenty here in Florida. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #16
Philadelphia Has Some RobinA Jun 2019 #18
My city in north central Florida have them at several places in town. Blue_true Jun 2019 #24
We have a nice one here in Middleton WI AJT Jun 2019 #26
We have massive pool complexes. kwassa Jun 2019 #29
There were municipal pools in my southern town. cwydro Jun 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Jersey Devil Jun 2019 #7
Public pools largely disappeared due to Polio Jersey Devil Jun 2019 #8
One of the good things about being a GenX kid Codeine Jun 2019 #12
In smaller municipalities, there may be many reasons SoCalDem Jun 2019 #22
Lived in a town that closed their pool Jake Stern Jun 2019 #28
Mid sized city - Midwest Chellee Jun 2019 #25
Sounds like where I live in the Midwest. AJT Jun 2019 #27

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
1. Are there any public pools any more, anywhere?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:19 AM
Jun 2019

I know of none in my area, but I'm no longer a parent. There are some local beaches.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
3. We have some in our part of Southern California
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jun 2019

and they look nice in pictures. I avoid pools because I’m not going to swim in someone else’s pit sweat, reconstituted smegma, and swamp ass residue but the facilities do look nice on the websites.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
9. Anyone who swims in a pool should be informed.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jun 2019

The pit sweat, etc., is what the chemicals are for, but not all pools are treated properly. Anyone swimming in a pool, public or private, should test the water for proper chlorination first, which is a simple thing to do with a water test strip, or a test kit, for more precise measurement of the free chlorine level in the pool water.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. I don't think it's actually dangerous or anything,
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

just kinda nasty. The reluctance is less biological and more psychological.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
13. The chemicals, properly administered, are what keep it from being nasty.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jun 2019

But when the water is not properly chlorinated the bacteria levels can rise to the point it can be risky to swim in it.

unc70

(6,117 posts)
5. Lots of public pools in NC
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jun 2019

Pools were a flash point 50+ years ago with integration. It might still be an issue in some areas.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
14. In my area you have to go to gym
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jun 2019

No public ones. Medford Oregon.

I am here in Ireland for the summer, a lot of the towns have leisure centers with a pool or hotels let you use pool for fee if not staying there.

mahina

(17,689 posts)
17. Are there some pools open in the winter too?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jun 2019

I’d love to go to Ireland. I also like to have a swim 3-4x a week. I’ve looked for this info to no avail, and here’s you! Thanks!

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
21. I am here for whole summer
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jun 2019

Galway is one place. Going all over. I have never left states before and no one would go so i came alone! Its been great. It will be 3 weeks on Thursday.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
16. Plenty here in Florida.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jun 2019

Even with the amount of backyard pools and private community pools, there are still a good amount of public pools for everyone's use. It's a great resource.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
18. Philadelphia Has Some
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jun 2019

There's always some argument over when they open, when they close, or something else. Usually money related.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. My city in north central Florida have them at several places in town.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jun 2019

All are completely integrated and staffed and the ones that I have passed by on a hot day were busy.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
29. We have massive pool complexes.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:23 PM
Jun 2019

Our immediate community has a dozen pools, and three active swim teams in the summer.

Our county operates at least four big indoor pool complexes, several with multiple pools, and many outdoor pools in parks.

Intramural swimming in the summer is huge here, the county has about a million residents, and many communities host teams. There are thousands of kids involved in competitive swimming, and we get even Olympians out of this county.

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Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
8. Public pools largely disappeared due to Polio
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jun 2019

In the 50s people were afraid to let their kids go under the public sprinklers in the parks, let alone pools.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
22. In smaller municipalities, there may be many reasons
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jun 2019

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fear of lawsuits
having to hire lifeguards
costs of running the pools
high costs for maintenance

towns all over have been tightening their belts for decades now, and many once public features are pretty much gone these days

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
28. Lived in a town that closed their pool
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:18 PM
Jun 2019

Wasn't due to racism but the fact that they had to pay out the nose to settle a slip 'n' fall lawsuit and decided it wasn't worth the risking future payouts. Now it's solely used for the high school swim team and PE classes.

Chellee

(2,101 posts)
25. Mid sized city - Midwest
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jun 2019

We have four municipal pools and twelve splash pads, all outside, so they're only open during the summer months. And at least two, (I haven't been to all four facilities) have these extraordinary spiral slides, and these incredible Rube Goldbergesque sprinklers which the kids adore judging by the shrieks of joy. For short periods of time they'll clear the pool of kids, so if you're an adult that would just like to do some laps for exercise you don't run the risk of being bonked in the head with a floatie. You can buy one day passes, or summer passes. It's fairly inexpensive, a one day pass is like $2, really little kids are free. The splash pads are outside of the pool areas, and some parks only have splash pads; they're free.

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