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llmart

(15,548 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:11 PM Jun 2019

What sort of denial do you have to live in if you are a woman/mother and Trump is your father?

How on earth do his two daughters sit by and see all the crap their father does and not disown him? They're grown adults and you would think have some sense that these stories can't all be fake. They surely have memories of some of his behavior and episodes from his past.

My father was not a nice person, not a good father, not a good provider, not a good husband. When he died I felt nothing other than regret that he had been my father and not some other man who would have cared about me. I have two sisters and we all felt the same way about him. He had power over us until we grew up and left home (we all left as soon as we graduated from high school), and we immediately set out to make our own way in this world. We used him as an example of how not to raise our children. He wasn't rich like Trump so there was no lure of an inheritance to keep us under his thumb, but I still can't imagine how one could know all about the criminality and sleaziness of their father and stand next to him smiling like he's the greatest man in your life.

But then again, I also can't understand why the porn star stays married to him either.

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What sort of denial do you have to live in if you are a woman/mother and Trump is your father? (Original Post) llmart Jun 2019 OP
Maybe they don't want to be kicked off the gravy train. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #1
And there you have it... the tRump* progeny have no skills outside of grifting with Dad... Raster Jun 2019 #3
I have three brothers. llmart Jun 2019 #9
As long as they stay in the will they will follow him to hell and back. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #2
Hopefully there won't be anything left after the State of New York pursues all the lawsuits. llmart Jun 2019 #6
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ awesomerwb1 Jun 2019 #4
That was going to be my response leftieNanner Jun 2019 #13
The controversial author of the 2 books on Trump maintains Ivanka and Jared hlthe2b Jun 2019 #5
Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud are in agreement on this The Stockholm syndrome thingy Brother Buzz Jun 2019 #7
I know this is not your main point, but I am very sorry for what you lived through as a child. nt spooky3 Jun 2019 #8
That's very kind of you. Thank you. llmart Jun 2019 #10
They were raised to believe that Bettie Jun 2019 #11
I would have to be very heavily medicated Ohiogal Jun 2019 #12
I have never read any theories on abusive parents and children Beringia Jun 2019 #14
Donnie Jr is the weirdest case-- dawg day Jun 2019 #17
Using your parent to build your own ego identity, must have something to do with it Beringia Jun 2019 #18
His children no doubt are subconsciously thinking... dawg day Jun 2019 #15
They don't know that there is a different way to be Leith Jun 2019 #16
Or that you even support this MF? sarabelle Jun 2019 #19
I feel qualified to answer. cpamomfromtexas Jun 2019 #20
Too much money ... GeorgeGist Jun 2019 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
1. Maybe they don't want to be kicked off the gravy train.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jun 2019

And maybe there's a kind of Stockholm syndrome going on; according to some accounts Don Jr. was treated very badly by his father, yet he seems the most desperate to please him.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
3. And there you have it... the tRump* progeny have no skills outside of grifting with Dad...
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jun 2019

...and yes, Don Jr. wins the "daddy issues" award.

llmart

(15,548 posts)
9. I have three brothers.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jun 2019

They were horribly abused by my father and to this day they talk about him like he was the best father in the world. My sisters and I are always reminding them of the way he treated them, but it doesn't matter. Guess it's easier for them to live a lie than to be honest. My youngest brother even went so far as to chastise us at our father's funeral for not crying. My oldest sister, who's always very blunt said, "Oh for heaven's sake. There isn't a one of us that didn't wish him dead a gazillion times when we were growing up."

llmart

(15,548 posts)
6. Hopefully there won't be anything left after the State of New York pursues all the lawsuits.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jun 2019

That'd be karma for his wife and kids. Stand by his side all those years only to find out they get nada.

Plus, how many kids has he fathered in all his dalliances that might come forward after all's said and done and claim part of whatever's left?

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
5. The controversial author of the 2 books on Trump maintains Ivanka and Jared
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jun 2019

actually hate him (Michael Wolff). Now that is hard to fathom and says nothing good about them either, but rather underscores their exploitation and sociopathy, but, who knows...?

llmart

(15,548 posts)
10. That's very kind of you. Thank you.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jun 2019

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it taught me resiliency, how NOT to raise my two wonderful children, and that childhood abuse stays with you for life, if not shown outwardly in one's public persona, then it's always with you internally. I've spent a lifetime examining it and learning to live with it. It helps me to understand about the choices I've made in my own life.

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
11. They were raised to believe that
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jun 2019

if they or their family members do something, it is good and noble, everyone else is so far beneath them that they don't even qualify as human.

Ohiogal

(32,036 posts)
12. I would have to be very heavily medicated
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jun 2019

to stand up at a political convention and make a speech about Trump if he was my husband/father/whatever and gush on and on about what a great guy he is. I agree, you would think that these family members, at least the daughters, would have seen enough of the world to know what their disgusting father is all about. How they can continue to support him is mind boggling.

And, Ilmart, I'm sorry for what you went through. I did not have the greatest relationship with my father, either.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
14. I have never read any theories on abusive parents and children
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jun 2019

How come some children still worship them and others flee for their lives. It seems his children have adopted his advantaged lifestyle, in that way they have followed in his footsteps, so they have a lot of themselves invested in being like him and enjoying their social status.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
17. Donnie Jr is the weirdest case--
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

His father was scornful and (by accounts) abusive towards him.
Donnie sided with his mother in the divorce and didn't speak to his father.
He had a more loving father figure in his maternal grandfather.

But he ends up the most slavish of all-- and desperately trying to ape his father in openly cheating on his wife and humiliating her. And he's the one who is most obedient to Trump's nasty wishes.

He doesn't, shall we say, have a very strong core. And shallow people like that with a lot of grievances are exactly the ones who go for Trump.

Plus, let's face it. No one who wasn't related to Donnie Jr would give him a job.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
18. Using your parent to build your own ego identity, must have something to do with it
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jun 2019


I don't even understand the dynamics in my own family, so I can't even guess what happens in others.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
15. His children no doubt are subconsciously thinking...
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jun 2019

"At least those brown kids' families really love them! My dad doesn't love anyone but himself!"

Leith

(7,813 posts)
16. They don't know that there is a different way to be
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jun 2019

Their entire lives have been in the megarich bubble. Everybody they know acts in that same, twisted way and they are not even aware that it is out of the ordinary. If, by some chance, one of them witnesses acts of happy family members, they assume that it is for public display.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,247 posts)
20. I feel qualified to answer.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jun 2019

My father has the exact mannerisms and behavior of Trump. Its uncanny.

I did not realize until I was in my 50s that his behavior was abnormal. It was normal because thats all I had ever seen. I did know I didn’t like it.

Slap a yellow wig on him and they would pass as brothers. And, like Trump, my father controls with money. He has committed at least 6 felonies in last year. I was victim of most of them. This is in retaliation for going “no contact” and refusing to deal with his bullshit anymore.

Unfortunately my Grandmother died and left him trustee. Contrary to law he refuses to disperse land in Accordance with will and trust. So he controls what belongs to me.

If I had known this abuse that I hated had a name, I would have cut off ties much sooner.

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