Wait now - so is Ellen Barkin now a witness for the prosecution??

[Leghorn21]

”Epstein’s pimp girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, a very well-connected
Brit socialite cannot just walk free. This woman is his pimp.
She pilots planes to and from the island. I know because she
told me. She is a sex trafficker.”

Link to tweet

[hlthe2b]

1. Sounds as though she's followed this story closely, but I'm not assuming involvement more than

interest... Have you seen something that suggests otherwise? I thought she was just commenting.

[Leghorn21]

2. Well, her comment says that Maxwell personally told her (Barkin) that she's Epstein's pimp.

This is all I’ve seen...it was pretty jarring to read, and has she already shared this with the proper authorities? Or - ?

That’s quite a bold remark to make “out of nowhere” -

[hlthe2b]

3. I'm guessing this will be the first of many "interesting' connections that are revealed...

Should be both interesting and infuriating...

[LisaL]

4. Or you can read it as Maxwell personally told her (Barkin) that Maxwell pilots planes

to and from the island. And Barkin then making assumptions. And it would be hearsay either way, thus not allowed in court, I presume.

[Leghorn21]

10. Copy that, LisaL, that could be the case

Thanks!

[Glimmer of Hope]

5. She was married to Ronald Perelman.

[yardwork]

6. Yep! Interesting....

[hlthe2b]

11. That's right. I'd forgotten about that. Well if she is half as engaged poltically on what is going

on as her ex-husband, I'm no longer so surprised.

[Honeycombe8]

16. Was he the rich husband who beat her up?

I saw it in the news. I think that's what it was. She was drunk or something, they had a fight, and he beat her up? Hope I didn't get that wrong.

[Me.]

7. Ellen Should Know...She was Married To Ron Perelman

and traveled in very moneyed circles

[NoMoreRepugs]

8. If careers and fortunes might be threatened

there are plenty of people who will spill the beans to avoid potential legal involvement. This might be an opportunity for epic popcorn consumption.

[renate]

9. until 2006 she was married to Ron Perelman, the Revlon billionaire

Pretty lofty circles she moved in, for a while. I bet she's going to recognize a lot of the names that will come out.

[7wo7rees]

15. Background check on Ron Perelman:

https://itsgoingdown.org/making-monsters-ronald-perelman/

[Leghorn21]

21. Thanks, 7 - some interesting scoop here - nt

[forgotmylogin]

28. Ron Perelman (does not equal) Ron Perlman, the actor?

Yep, googled both, the extra E makes a difference.

[EveHammond13]

12. open secrets

[blogslut]

13. There's a line in the film 'Running With Scissors' that applies to Epstein

"Daddy's like a great ocean liner. If he goes down, he's taking a lot of people with him."

[a kennedy]

14. and if the orange piece of shit is even remotely involved, we won't EVER find out

the truth. The ol’ delay, delay, delay routine. Nope just like his tax files, or anything else he’s connected to, we WILL NEVER FIND OUT the truth.

[paleotn]

17. Going to be a lot of witnesses for the prosecution.

Burn them all. I don't care who they are. Anyone implicated needs to go to jail for decades.

[triron]

18. As the German soldier said in Laugh-in, 'verrry interesting'.

[BHDem53]

23. Arte Johnson 01/20/1929-07/03/2019 RIP

[watoos]

19. I have seen nothing that this case

is related to what happened in Florida. I'm under the assumption that these are new charges based on Epstein bringing underage girls to his NY apartment/home?

[triron]

20. What the fuck?

[Leghorn21]

22. Yes, w, this is all strictly NYC - and these appear to be new charges, although I'm not sure of that

Epstein is charged with using his network of contacts to bring a constant stream of underage girls to his Manhattan townhouse, NYT reports.

He's accused of shuttling girls between the townhouse and his Palm Beach home, paying them and urging them to recruit other underage girls.

Link to tweet

…


Federal prosecutors are expected to unseal charges on Monday accusing Jeffrey Epstein of running a sex-trafficking operation that lured dozens of underage girls, some as young as 14, to his Upper East Side home, law enforcement officials tell NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share …

Link to tweet

[LisaL]

24. Epstein got immunity from any further prosecution in Florida but not in New York.

So presumably whatever happened had to have happened in New York.

[Leghorn21]

25. Thank you, LisaL

(that's just fucking INSANE, Epstein getting "immunity" of any kind for any reason, but - thanks SDNY!!)

[mr_lebowski]

29. He's already been charged, plea-bargained, and did 13 months at a country club 'prison' ...

Had to register as sex offender, etc.

He didn't get 'immunity', but it's a double-jeopardy situation, basically, unless something new is uncovered in Florida.

[LisaL]

30. He did get immunity.

"The deal ended the FBI’s investigation into numerous accusations against Epstein and granted him immunity from the more serious federal charges. In addition, the NPA granted immunity to potential co-conspirators and shielded the deal from the victims."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-ex-donald-trump-bill-clinton-associate-arrested/1669665001/

[mr_lebowski]

32. Fair enough ... immunity from federal charges due to pleading guilty to state charges ...

And 'doing his time' ... such as it was.

That's different than most people's definition of 'immunity', but ... you make a fair point.

So ... I wonder why the Federal Charges are popping up now? FL or NY shouldn't matter for Federal Charges, it's all 'in the US'

I mean, I GLAD they are, just wonder ... 'how'?

[LisaL]

34. Because his immunity or a plea deal, whatever you call it, only applies to Miami area.

That's how they can charge him federally, because apparently current allegations are about what happened in New York, not Florida, and his immunity doesn't cover him for those alleged crimes that supposed to have happened in New York.

"If Epstein is alleged to have committed illegal acts in other parts of the country, the agreement would no longer protect him."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/who-jeffrey-epstein-why-has-he-been-arrested-again-n1027241

[Leghorn21]

31. OH, got it, mr - THAT crappy deal, okay - that wrapped up all his Florida business - thank you

(—but maybe our intrepid JULIE K BROWN can find some new charges against him )

[calimary]

27. Excellent.

Whatever finally takes this bastard DOWN.

[dem4decades]

26. Not that i don't trust the DOJ but can't NY bring state charges?

Takes the pardon off the table too.

[mr_lebowski]

33. That would seem very reasonable, in fact I'm curious to see what the Federal charges will

be tomorrow, exactly. Normally this sort of thing would the purview of the State it happened in, I would think. I guess 'international sex trafficking' is what the Fed's would be charging him on? Or transportation of minors over state lines for lewd purposes or what ever it's called?

But I would really think the individual acts with the girls could certainly be cause for state-level charges ... at minimum statutory rape, solicitation of minors, etc, etc.