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sandensea

(21,642 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:50 PM Jul 2019

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez responds to Trump's use 'Evita' as a slur




It's worth noting that far-right Argentine politician Darío Lopérfido, one of the country's most infamous Dirty War denialists (at least 22,000 were killed, according to dictatorship officials themselves), was the first to attack the post.

Lopérfido left Argentina in 2017 after his name appeared in the Panama Papers scandal.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez responds to Trump's use 'Evita' as a slur (Original Post) sandensea Jul 2019 OP
She lives in his head rent-free, doesn't she? gratuitous Jul 2019 #1
He should resign, and go into Broadway sandensea Jul 2019 #2
I like her when she's fighting Trump. I don't liike her comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #3
+1 sandensea Jul 2019 #4
She's the best melman Jul 2019 #5
+100000000000 jcmaine72 Jul 2019 #6
She knows the Perons were Nazi sympathizers right? EllieBC Jul 2019 #7
They weren't. Peron allowed some in for their money and know-how - just as Truman did sandensea Jul 2019 #8
So he didn't know Mengele and Eichmann came in? EllieBC Jul 2019 #9
It's possible - but keep in mind many Nazis (inc. those two) used false identities sandensea Jul 2019 #10

sandensea

(21,642 posts)
2. He should resign, and go into Broadway
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:12 AM
Jul 2019

"As Perón?" he'd no doubt ask.

"No, Donald. As one of the fat, conceited oafs who resented Evita as 'that low-class whore'."

(Argentine right-wingers are a lot like Republicans: they consider any woman who in some way breaks the mold either a 'bitch' or a 'whore')

comradebillyboy

(10,155 posts)
3. I like her when she's fighting Trump. I don't liike her
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:24 AM
Jul 2019

when she's fighting Nancy Pelosi or arranging primaries of other democrats outside of her district. I'm not a fan of the entire DSA and Justice Democrat scene.

sandensea

(21,642 posts)
4. +1
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jul 2019

She's idealistic and passionate - but like Evita, she's very young and, like many young people, needs to learn pick her fights more carefully.

And that you never fight your friends and allies, except as a very last resort (if that).

EllieBC

(3,018 posts)
7. She knows the Perons were Nazi sympathizers right?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:51 AM
Jul 2019

JFC. Let’s not get excited because Evita said something cool once. She wore the stolen goods and benefited from the money of dead Jews. Her trash husband allowed Mengele to seek refuge in Argentina.

sandensea

(21,642 posts)
8. They weren't. Peron allowed some in for their money and know-how - just as Truman did
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:02 AM
Jul 2019

While he admired what he saw as the fascists' political skill (Mussolini) in the pre-war years (well before he became president), Perón himself was very much a social democrat.

And he was the first Argentine president to be inclusive toward the country's Jewish community, including numerous Jewish policy-makers in his administration and consulting with them when shaping economic policy.

Many Jewish small-businesspeople became wealthy retailers and industrialists largely as a result.

Perón was one of the first world leaders to recognize Israel, and gave them millions in aid - including a state-owned mansion for use as Israel's embassy in Buenos Aires.

He was also the first to take into account women, the working class and poor, and minorities (including religious minorities), in his policy considerations - one of the first in Latin America to do so, in fact.

EllieBC

(3,018 posts)
9. So he didn't know Mengele and Eichmann came in?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:13 AM
Jul 2019

I don’t care how super awesome of a socialist he was. You let in murderers like that to hide that makes you trash.

sandensea

(21,642 posts)
10. It's possible - but keep in mind many Nazis (inc. those two) used false identities
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:46 AM
Jul 2019

Argentina, unlike the U.S., has very scanty foreign intelligence resources, and the identities of war criminals were often not known to government officials.

Mengele and Eichmann, for instance, lived poorly - especially Eichmann, who lived in what you might call the boondocks.

In some cases, they came in not through state auspices (though some, such as physicist Ronald "fusion in a bottle" Richter, did) - but at the invitation of Nazi sympathizers in Argentina. García Merou and the Eichhorns were the most notorious.

This was a common problem throughout Latin America, where many in the elite - and not just Germans - had favored the Nazis during the war.

Perón, like most Latin American leaders at the time (and Truman as well), had an ambivalent role. He did seize some Nazi-linked properties - including their embassy. But in other cases, he looked the other way.

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