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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:31 AM Jul 2019

Former CIA Director and Republican Michael Hayden: America May Not Survive a Second Trump Term

Former CIA Director and Republican Michael Hayden: America May Not Survive a Second Trump Term

By John Ziegler Jul 11th, 2019, 8:54 am

(the author is conservative and has become a never-Trumper -- Don)

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Yesterday, having at least partially recovered from his stroke, Hayden graciously and somewhat courageously agreed to do one of his first interviews since returning to public life on my Trump-focused podcast. The results were quite extraordinary.

Here are some of the highlights:

1. Hayden is very worried about the resignation of the UK ambassador to the United States and the fact that Trump consistently treats our closest allies like enemies and some of our worst enemies like allies.

2.He said there is “no question” that our standing in the world has suffered significantly because of Trump’s behavior as president.

3. Based on his experience as CIA Director, he is says the report this week that Russia was behind the Seth Rich conspiracy theory gaining traction in the American media is “absolutely true,” though he blames our manipulative news media, specifically Fox News, and gullible population, more than he even does the Russians.

4. The Mueller report was even worse for Trump than he had anticipated and he eagerly looks forward to what Robert Mueller will say in his congressional testimonies next week.

5. In his opinion, Attorney General Bill Barr purposely deceived the American people on Trump’s behalf. Hayden agreed with my assertion that the president’s firing of Jeff Sessions, so as to make Barr’s appointment possible, is perhaps the most egregious thing Trump has done during the investigation.

6. What is outlined in the Mueller report is enough to warrant Trump’s impeachment, but Hayden is resigned to the idea that the best course of action would be to forgo the impeachment process and vote him out of office in 2020.

7. Hayden lambasts the “deep state” conspiracy — a wacky theory being pushed by Republicans and the “conservative” media desperate to nullify Mueller’s conclusions that the intelligence agencies were out to get Trump — as being “crazy,” and “just not possible.”

8. He ominously concludes that the damage that Trump has done to our institutions so far can be survived, but that the United States, at least as we know it, may not be able to endure two terms of him as president.


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full article:
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/former-cia-director-and-republican-michael-hayden-america-may-not-survive-a-second-trump-term/
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Former CIA Director and Republican Michael Hayden: America May Not Survive a Second Trump Term (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
He's right. K&R... spanone Jul 2019 #1
There is the option of joining the Canadian confederation. roamer65 Jul 2019 #2
I have long thought that parts of the US should secede. Does anyone really Nay Jul 2019 #3
I think we should ask if they would want any of us first. nt Hotler Jul 2019 #6
One of the points of the Civil War Red Pest Jul 2019 #8
Good luck. triron Jul 2019 #10
NO SHIT! BlueJac Jul 2019 #4
Today will be the end of our democracy GusBob Jul 2019 #5
Wow. Hayden is sending a very loud signal to the intelligence community and our allies. Princetonian Jul 2019 #7
America won't survive another year of Trump. triron Jul 2019 #9

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. There is the option of joining the Canadian confederation.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

Especially for New England, NY and other border states.

New England and NY should make the Canadian dollar legal tender in preparation for secession.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
3. I have long thought that parts of the US should secede. Does anyone really
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jul 2019

think that the modern progressive adult has anything, other than basically being a human, in common with the people who follow Trump; are Nazis; are evangelical or prosperity-gospel megachurch members; and such? It was one thing when these sorts of believers were a small part of the country. Now, as their number grows larger and seems to have outsized influence, who isn't thinking exactly what you are thinking?

I'd love it if one of our DU lawyers would weigh in on this. Does a state have a way of joining Canada legally? Is there any wiggle room for this? What would the federal government do if a state wanted to do this? (Other than what they did in the Civil War.)

Red Pest

(288 posts)
8. One of the points of the Civil War
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jul 2019

was that states may not secede from the Union. Frankly, I find this line of reasoning (secession) defeatist. We can win in 2020, not just the presidency, but also the Senate while retaining the House. How do we accomplish this trifecta? Hard work - education and GOTV. That's how any campaign wins. Of course there is one big caveat - Trump and his corrupt, malignant allies (aka Republican Party) willingness to take Russian help (hacking the voting system) alter and to suppress the vote - which is again why we have to work harder to GOTV.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. Today will be the end of our democracy
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jul 2019

Its been eroding bit by bit, but when Trump signs an executive order that goes directly against our Constitution, our democracy has ended

 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
7. Wow. Hayden is sending a very loud signal to the intelligence community and our allies.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:24 PM
Jul 2019

This is a clear acknowledgment that Chump is a traitor and Russian asset.

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