Ro Khana's Take on the Closed Door Meeting of the Democratic Caucus

[lapucelle]

with added context from John Yarmuth.

Steny Hoyer also spoke at the closed-door meeting.

“He said, come to me, criticize me in person. But let's be unified when we're dealing with McConnell. The real obstacle, which I agree with, is Mitch McConnell. Our fire should be directed at him,” said progressive Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.).

Leaving the meeting, Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.), a de facto member of leadership as the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said Hoyer emphasized that intraparty squabbles should be kept out of the public square.

“Steny gave a very impassioned unity talk just a few minutes ago, talking about how important everybody is to getting our agenda done [and] that if we have problems with each other we ought to address each other and not go outside,” Yarmuth said.

Asked if Hoyer’s message was directed at Pelosi, Yarmuth chuckled. “It was directed at everyone,” he said. “They know who they are.”

It is also being reported that Pelosi said:

“I hope there will be some level of respect and sensitivity for our — each individual experience that we bring to this Caucus,” Pelosi said. “You make me the target, but don’t make our Blue Dogs and our New Dems the target in all of this because we have important fish to fry.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/452422-pelosi-scolds-democrats-for-public-barbs

[mcar]

1. Sounds sensible to me

[Me.]

2. Thank You

For telling it as it was/is.

[DURHAM D]

3. I am shocked... the headline doesn't match the story.

Oh wait, it is The Hill. It should be renamed The Molehill.

[lapucelle]

4. Their are several accounts at odds with what actually appears to have happened

in WaPo, Mediaite, and on social media.

[brush]

5. IMO it's amazing that adults have to be told this.

If you have a beef with another Dem be a man or woman and sit down with that person, close the door and hash it out. Have a knockdown-drag out if ya want, just don't get on social media because you don't have the courage to go face-to-face, and blast other Dems publicly to the world, which could very well result in repug campaign ads that can endanger our fragile majority in the House.

This is no longer the twitterverse of high school/college/twenty-somethings, this is the effin big league of trying to wrest our republic from being turned into a trump dictatorship.

The trump repugs are the public target, not other Dems.

Period.

[GeorgeGist]

6. So why did Nancy run to Maureen...

To trash AOC et al?

[LanternWaste]

7. Merely an oversight you mentioned only one of many parties, I'm certain.

Otherwise, the dramatic lack of relevant names is an odd, though accurate reflection of little more than bias.



Sincerity. Take two. Lights! and... action!

[brush]

9. Are names necessary to say Dems stop attacking Dems publicly...

trash repugs.

Not rocket science. Adults should not have to be told this.

[brush]

10. Quite simply it goes both ways. Attack repugs not other Dems.

[lapucelle]

23. Actually, this was started on twitter on June 27.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/27/hell-no-ocasio-cortez-denounces-pelosi-approved-vote-mcconnells-border-bill-without

The series of now-deleted tweets on the same day from ever-helpful NY-14 chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti reported by Newsweek way back in June certainly escalted the matter.

Ocasio-Cortez Chief of Staff Deletes Tweet Slamming Moderate Democrats For 'Enabling Racist System'

After deleting his initial tweet, Chakrabarti doubled down on his criticisms of New Democrats — otherwise known as centrist Democrats or moderate Democrats — and the Blue Dog Caucus with a reworded take on the issue.
"Can we stop calling the Blue Dog Caucus 'fiscally conservative but socially liberal?' I missed the part of fiscal conservativeness or social liberalness that includes wasting $4.5 billion of taxpayer money to put kids in concentration camps," he tweeted, noting in other posts that he "replaced" the initial post "with the same point stated differently" because "some progressives took it as a personal insult."

Further explaining his position, Chakrabarti declared in another tweet: "You can be someone who does not personally harbor ill will towards a race, but through your actions still enable a racist system. And a lot of New Democrats and Blue Dogs did that today."

Chakrabarti also addressed his since-deleted comparison of Blue Dogs and New Democrats to 1940s Southern Democrats. "Southern Democrats enabled a racist system too," he added. "I have no idea how personally racist they all were. And we're seeing the same dynamic play out now."

https://www.newsweek.com/ocasio-cortez-chief-staff-deletes-tweet-slamming-moderate-democrats-enabling-racist-system-1446400

The Pelosi - Dowd interview was July 6.

[Turin_C3PO]

8. In all fairness, Pelosi

went first to Maureen Dowd to talk about those progressives, which isn’t any better than Twitter blasting someone. I’m for a cease-fire on all sides. We need all voices, moderate, progressive, and democratic socialist alike.

[lapucelle]

14. In all fainess, this was started on twitter on June 27.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/27/hell-no-ocasio-cortez-denounces-pelosi-approved-vote-mcconnells-border-bill-without

And, of course, there was also the series of now-deleted tweets on the same day from ever-helpful NY-14 chief of staff / Brand New Congress / Justice Democrat Saikat Chakrabarti reported by Newsweek way back in June.

Ocasio-Cortez Chief of Staff Deletes Tweet Slamming Moderate Democrats For 'Enabling Racist System'

After deleting his initial tweet, Chakrabarti doubled down on his criticisms of New Democrats — otherwise known as centrist Democrats or moderate Democrats — and the Blue Dog Caucus with a reworded take on the issue.
"Can we stop calling the Blue Dog Caucus 'fiscally conservative but socially liberal?' I missed the part of fiscal conservativeness or social liberalness that includes wasting $4.5 billion of taxpayer money to put kids in concentration camps," he tweeted, noting in other posts that he "replaced" the initial post "with the same point stated differently" because "some progressives took it as a personal insult."

Further explaining his position, Chakrabarti declared in another tweet: "You can be someone who does not personally harbor ill will towards a race, but through your actions still enable a racist system. And a lot of New Democrats and Blue Dogs did that today."

Chakrabarti also addressed his since-deleted comparison of Blue Dogs and New Democrats to 1940s Southern Democrats. "Southern Democrats enabled a racist system too," he added. "I have no idea how personally racist they all were. And we're seeing the same dynamic play out now."

https://www.newsweek.com/ocasio-cortez-chief-staff-deletes-tweet-slamming-moderate-democrats-enabling-racist-system-1446400

The Maureen Dowd interview was published on July 6.

So no, I do not think it's fair to say that this began when Speaker Pelosi "went first to Maureen Dowd"

[Turin_C3PO]

16. Ok.

But my overall point is that I hope the infighting stops. It only helps Republicans. All shots should be aimed at Trump and his complicit Republican Party and yes, the “squad” should shut up.

[lapucelle]

19. I don't think Saikat Chakrabarti should be stirring this pot. N/T

[Cha]

17. Excellent reply, lapucelle!

[sheshe2]

20. Thank you lapucelle!

For setting the record straight.

[Cha]

15. No.. to be fair it's important to read lapucelle's reply...

Link to tweet

[Turin_C3PO]

18. I just did and I concede the point.

I’m just dismayed to see infighting. We need a united front and that goes for the progressives talking shit about Pelosi.

[Cha]

22. I know..

I think Nancy just wants to make sure we Win the House in 2020 like we did in the BlueWave of 2018.. when we Flipped at least 40 red seats to Blue.

Nancy's advice to those running was to run on health care and many of them did and Won.

And, it wasn't MFA.

[Vegas Roller]

11. Yeah Yeah but loyalty discipline

doesn't raise funds for TYT, OR, BNC etc. and hurts the pocketbooks of Saikat Chakraborti, Cenk Uygur, Riley Roberts et al who depend upon that money.

Every stunt against the Dempcratic party is monetized by those groups against the interests of the Democratic party.

[ehrnst]

12. Well that quote wouldn't stoke any righteous indignation on behalf of the Squad whatsoever..

“I hope there will be some level of respect and sensitivity for our — each individual experience that we bring to this Caucus,” Pelosi said. “You make me the target, but don’t make our Blue Dogs and our New Dems the target in all of this because we have important fish to fry.”

So... just leave that out of any fundraising emails purported to ask people to cough up $$ to "supporting AOC, 'K?

[sheshe2]

21. K&R

[brer cat]

24. K&R