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Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:17 PM Jul 2019

ABC News: Trump backing down on citizenship question.

Trump expected to end his fight to add citizenship question to census, sources say.

President Donald Trump is expected to announce later Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-expected-end-fight-add-citizenship-question-census/story?id=64262805

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ABC News: Trump backing down on citizenship question. (Original Post) Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 OP
I don't believe that for one minute. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #1
Hm. This sounds like old news. trev Jul 2019 #2
Oh, I guess I did miss something. trev Jul 2019 #7
late nite knock at the door dweller Jul 2019 #9
Or stopped on the street and demanded the same. trev Jul 2019 #12
Also being reported by CNN n/t Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #3
Trump expected to back away from census citizenship question, direct Commerce to seek data through Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #4
Good if true. We must stay strong when dealing with a bully. OrlandoDem2 Jul 2019 #5
McTurtle gave him a call, "Mr. President, I can't back you up on this, sir". oasis Jul 2019 #6
Trump backs down again. See the pattern: Throw weight around and bully... brush Jul 2019 #8
I think that's right. He blusters and threatens but eventually The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #10
I wonder if Pelosi threatened him with an impeachment inquiry if he defied SCOTUS. octoberlib Jul 2019 #11
She did threaten to hold Barr and Ross in criminal contempt .. ananda Jul 2019 #13
which she SHOULD be doing anyways Skittles Jul 2019 #15
here's a 5th recommendation real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #14
Somebody better go check on Ann Coulter. tanyev Jul 2019 #16
here's a 5th recommendation real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #17
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2019 #18
Fickle as the wind struggle4progress Jul 2019 #19
Reapportionment for cong. dists. will at least not be skewed Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #20

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. I don't believe that for one minute.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jul 2019

The GOP wants that so they can limit the brown and black people which makes it easier for them to win.

trev

(1,480 posts)
2. Hm. This sounds like old news.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jul 2019

It seems to me he is going to go ahead with his executive order. IMO, that's a much more dangerous course of action. And the statement that he is "ending the fight" is misleading and untrue.

Unless I'm missing something....

trev

(1,480 posts)
7. Oh, I guess I did miss something.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jul 2019

Apparently he is going to find a way outside of the census to question people's citizenship.

That might be worse....

trev

(1,480 posts)
12. Or stopped on the street and demanded the same.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jul 2019

The German police were still doing that when I was there in the 80s.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
4. Trump expected to back away from census citizenship question, direct Commerce to seek data through
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jul 2019

other sources.

President Donald Trump is expected to issue an executive action Thursday directing the Commerce Department to obtain citizenship data through means other than the US census, according to two people with knowledge of the plan.

These people said Trump is expected to table his effort to add a question about citizenship status to the 2020 census, setting aside his demands last week to continue pursuing the issue despite a Supreme Court order blocking it.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/trump-census-executive-action/index.html

oasis

(49,389 posts)
6. McTurtle gave him a call, "Mr. President, I can't back you up on this, sir".
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:38 PM
Jul 2019

100% that.

How could McConnell explain backing up Trump in defying a Supreme Court decision?

brush

(53,787 posts)
8. Trump backs down again. See the pattern: Throw weight around and bully...
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

bully, bully, and it that doesn't work back down and create another distraction. The Muslim ban, NK, Iran, Venezuela, the Wall, the immigrant round up and on and on.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
10. I think that's right. He blusters and threatens but eventually
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jul 2019

he folds like a cheap lawn chair when he figures out (or someone tells him) that he's likely to fail. Since the worst thing in the world for him is the appearance of failure, he will then give up, pretend he didn't give up, and throw out more chaff and countermeasures that don't fool anyone.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
11. I wonder if Pelosi threatened him with an impeachment inquiry if he defied SCOTUS.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jul 2019

He's also trying to get his budget passed in the House, so she has leverage there, too. Or maybe Trump was just blowing smoke up America's ass and never intended to write an EO. We're all gonna have PTSD when this asshole's term is over.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
20. Reapportionment for cong. dists. will at least not be skewed
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:46 AM
Jul 2019

which was the point of the question - not "protecting voting rights". Which I thought was a bizarre argument.

I wonder how the RWers would feel if some politico put a gun ownership question on the census form.

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