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DDySiegs

(253 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:42 PM Jul 2019

My E-Mail today to Speaker Pelosi Concerning Her Failure to Act

Dear Speaker Pelosi,

On June 15 I sent you a note, which I copy below, concerning your utter failure up to that time to undertake strong actions against the egregiously criminal activities of the Trump administration. What have you done since then? I’ll tell you. NOTHING! You still have not authorized the commencement of impeachment proceedings against Trump, and his henchman. You can’t even bring yourself and the Congress to take real and stern steps regarding the enforcement of subpoenas. All you do is stand by while Trump and his criminal gang thumb their noses at what is to all intents and purposes a Do Nothing Congress.

Time is running out in this country, further inaction on your part and on the parts members of Congress is extremely dangerous and totally unacceptable. Every day Trump is taking illegal (unconstitutional) steps to wrongly appropriate powers that belong to Congress or to the Judiciary. He claims the power to grant complete testimonial immunity, not only to current White House and administration operatives, not only to people who were involved in his campaign or his transition, but also to people who are civilians and never had a formal connection with government – and he does this without the slightest hint of a justification in law or under the Constitution. Now he is about to disregard and override the clear decision of the Supreme Court regarding the 2020 census with a totally illegal “executive order.” If the Congress – that means you as Speaker of the House – does nothing to counter these power grabs, they will constitute a fait accomplish and the Constitution and our nation will be a dead letter. This massive and outrageous Abuse of Power by Trump must be stopped NOW!

Below is the text of my June 15 note to you:

Email to Speaker Pelosi sent 6/15/2019

Dear Speaker Pelosi

There is no longer any excuse not to commence impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump and against at least two members of his cabinet -- AG William Barr and Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin.

We have been served-up by you and by other weak willed Democrats various grounds for not immediately moving expressly toward impeachment. This week, as a result of the release of portions of George Stephanopolous's interview of Trump, we have seen Trump openly invite violation of Federal Election Campaign Act (e.g., 52 USC Sec. 30121 et al) by stating that he would look at and consider what he calls Oppo Research provided by a foreign government and would not report such proffer to the FBI. This policy is one he has already acted upon during the 2016 election. He has thus committed actually completed crimes in this regard in the past and he sees nothing wrong with committing them again. This behavior is plainly impeachable. Trump's conduct in this regard is notorious and out in the open; it needs no evidentiary hearing to support the drafting and approval by the House of an Article of impeachment. And there are numerous other acts of open and notorious behavior by Trump warranting their own Articles of impeachment. (For example, his egregious and open flaunting misuse of the 'executive privilege - which amounts to Obstruction of Congress and Obstruction of Justice)

In addition there are Trump's numerous and egregious acts of Obstruction of Justice and Subornation chronicled in the Mueller report.

As to AG Barr - he has lied to congress; he has assisted Trump in concealing evidence from various House Committees and thus apparently committing obstruction of justice. Further, yesterday, he disgracefully authorized the release of a totally disingenuous memo purporting to justify the Treasury Secretary's and the IRS Commisioner's refusal to provide requested tax information concerning Donald Trump to Chairman Neal of the Ways and Means Committee.. This frivolous memo thus aides and abets the Secretary of the Treasury and the Commisioner of the IRS in their violation of 26 USC section 6103(f)(1) which is a crime under 26 USC 7214(a). It is simply not enough to cite AG Barr for civil contempt of Congress - he needs to be removed from office by impeachment.

As to the Treasury Secretary himself, as pointed out above, by failing to provide the requested tax information concerning Donald Trump as requested by Chairman Neal, Secretary Mnuchin (along with the IRS Commissioner) has violated section 6103 and is thus criminally liable under section 7214 which calls for a $10,000 fine and/or imprisonment for up to 5 years. This felony violation surely warrants the impeachment of Mr. Mnuchin.

But what do you to bring about the necessary impeachment proceedings. Actually, nothing! If we think of the United States Constitution as living body, then the impeachment clause is like one of its arms. Continued failure to use that clause when it is - as now - plainly warranted, will cause that "arm" to wither away - to atrophy - and never again be available no matter how plainly it is justified. Your continued failure to act - and act now - therefore cannot be justified by political considerations and will constitute a dereliction of your duty as a constitutional officer of the United States government.

The time has come - do your duty and save what's left of our great country.

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My E-Mail today to Speaker Pelosi Concerning Her Failure to Act (Original Post) DDySiegs Jul 2019 OP
I am convinced, by all the young people I talk to, that her inaction is costing us votes. Goodheart Jul 2019 #1
I think it will be the opposite. Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #4
You're right Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #14
pretty much qazplm135 Jul 2019 #26
The young people you're talking aren't going to try to vote Trump out in November 2020 StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #6
The over all enthusiasm for political action WANES when your elected politicians do nothing, anyway. Goodheart Jul 2019 #7
As I said, they need to go to a Civics 101 class StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #8
I doubt that insulting them will make them enthusiastic to vote, either. Goodheart Jul 2019 #10
If my comments here are enough to keep them from voting, well ... StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #12
+1000 nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #15
When did the Speaker become endowed with much responsibility for "young voters?" ehrnst Jul 2019 #23
So by not impeaching Trump, young voters won't...vote to remove him in November? bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #28
I understand your frustration, but Pelosi does not have votes. centrarchus Jul 2019 #2
You don't know that. Goodheart Jul 2019 #3
But she does. TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #5
I doubt she does actually or she is making bad assumptions. triron Jul 2019 #18
I see the problem now-- I wasn't responding to "does she have the votes". I was... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jul 2019 #19
As I said above-- I wasn't responding to "does she have the votes". I was... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #21
Ah - pronoun issues... She does "know" rather than She does "have the votes" ehrnst Jul 2019 #22
How do you know otherwise? Please share. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #25
seems pretty clear qazplm135 Jul 2019 #27
precisely, the GOP controlled Senate has already pledged they will block an impeachment real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #9
Gesture Politics is futile and potentially damaging. OnDoutside Jul 2019 #11
Who do you think is promoting "gesture politics?' (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #29
Any politician who went hellbent on demanding Impeachment, without recognising that OnDoutside Jul 2019 #31
+1000. ehrnst Jul 2019 #32
I'll post this again for those who haven't seen it.... chowder66 Jul 2019 #13
Thank you StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #16
: ). nt chowder66 Jul 2019 #17
Thank you! (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #24
I like what I heard from her in the press conference following the Mueller testimony as well. nt chowder66 Jul 2019 #30

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
4. I think it will be the opposite.
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jul 2019

I predict record turnout by Democrats, including young people, in order to vote Trump out of office. Whether we impeach or not is irrelevant. Why would people who want him impeached not show up to vote in 2020 when they have the chance to kick him out of office? I don’t think people are that stupid.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
26. pretty much
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jul 2019

to think that people WON'T turn out to vote out Trump because they are SOOOO ANGRY that he wasn't kicked out via impeachment is nonsensical.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. The young people you're talking aren't going to try to vote Trump out in November 2020
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jul 2019

because Pelosi hasn't started impeachment proceedings in July 2019?

If that's the case, someone needs to do more than just talk to them. They need to send them back to school for some basic Civics 101 education.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. As I said, they need to go to a Civics 101 class
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jul 2019

One thing they might learn is that everything's not about them and their "enthusiasm" isn't the primary focus of politics.

But if they're thinking about allowing Trump to be reelected to a second four-year term because they're so upset that he wasn't impeached (and not removed), maybe they're too clueless to be trusted with voting in the first place.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. When did the Speaker become endowed with much responsibility for "young voters?"
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

I don't recall discussion of Tom Foley or Tip O'neill's outsized influence whether "young people" going to vote Democratic.

Somehow Madame Speaker gets the blame for a wide variety of things that former Speakers were never even responsible for.

I understand from many in the RW that Obama "created racial divides and tension" that weren't there prior to his election, as well. They personally saw it among people they new and were also 'convinced' of it.



TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
20. I see the problem now-- I wasn't responding to "does she have the votes". I was...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jul 2019

responding to "does she know if she has the votes".

Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #5)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
21. As I said above-- I wasn't responding to "does she have the votes". I was...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:08 AM
Jul 2019

responding to whether or not she knows if she has the votes.

And it looks like she knows she doesn't have the votes. Yet.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
27. seems pretty clear
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jul 2019

Fact: almost 100 Dems felt free and clear to come out in favor of impeachment.
She's not blocking folks from coming out.

Fact: She made clear again in a meeting that everyone was free to come out as they pleased for or against impeachment.
She's not blocking folks from coming out.

Fact: A high-ranking member of her leadership team just came out in favor of impeachment.
If she were blocking anyone, it would definitely be members of her leadership team.

So, it's pretty clear there aren't 100 people wanting to do impeachment but for the heavy hand of Pelosi.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
31. Any politician who went hellbent on demanding Impeachment, without recognising that
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jul 2019

a) The Democrats will look as bad as the Benghazi Republicans, if it's not done right.

b) They can't even get Don McGahn, and anyone connected to Trump, not even his tax returns. There are cases pending which will give clarity to when/if they can get what they need.

It's too important to screw up, and I'm glad Pelosi is the cool head in all this.

chowder66

(9,073 posts)
13. I'll post this again for those who haven't seen it....
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:39 PM
Jul 2019

snip....

Pelosi’s sensitivity to public sentiment requires her to keep tabs on three fronts.

The first is the Democratic caucus. She constantly monitors and measures the mood of her colleagues. She rotates through her office the House Democratic leadership, a wider leadership group called the Steering and Policy Committee, the chairs of various legislative committees, and the leaders and members of dozens of disparate caucuses (the Congressional Black Caucus and the conservative Blue Dogs, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the moderate New Democratic Caucus). Then she goes to ground, conferring with members one-on-one. Not everyone knows what everyone else is thinking. She and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer do. It’s how they shape consensus.

snip....

The second is the congressional electorate, which determines which party controls the House. Sure, Pelosi has institutional responsibilities. Yes, she must reflect the progressive values and priorities of the Democratic Party. But she also has a responsibility to keep Democrats in the majority, so that they can fight effectively for those values and priorities. She’s got to win elections.

snip....
But “this moment in time” does not mean “all moments in time.” Pelosi, remember, believes it’s possible to shape public sentiment. That’s why she’s unleashed her committee chairs to fully exercise their oversight responsibilities by investigating every facet of potentially impeachable offenses: Jerry Nadler of the Judiciary Committee, Adam Schiff on Intel, Maxine Waters on Financial Services, Elijah Cummings on Oversight and Reform. They may find a smoking gun—incontrovertible evidence that crystallizes public support for impeachment and maximizes pressure on House Republican incumbents in moderate districts. Then Pelosi will have achieved her goal: a broader public consensus for impeachment and stronger, if not necessarily overwhelming, bipartisan support.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/nancy-pelosi-public-opinion-and-timing-matter/591385/


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